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Famous Vulcans Pointy-Earmarked for Eighth Episode, Second in Reformation Arc (SPOILERS)

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By Steve Krutzler / 15:41, 16 September 2004 / Enterprise

"The Forge" kicks off a three-episode Vulcan Reformation arc later this fall on STAR TREK: ENTERPRISE (story). In that episode, we learn after the bombing of an Earth embassy on Vulcan and the killing of an 'Ambassador Forrest' that a group of Vulcans in the desert have started a cult around a man who claims to have found the actual remains of the Vulcan philosopher 'Surak'.

In the second installment in the arc, currently untitled, TrekWeb has learned that at least two Vulcan notables will make an appearance. 'T'Pau', seen in TOS's "Amok Time" and played then by Celia Lovsky, is one guest role that Paramount is now casting for the episode. T'Pau is one of Vulcan's most revered leaders and the only person to turn down a seat on the Federation Council according to TREK lore. T'Pau was rumored to be the character eventually turned into 'T'Pol' on ENTERPRISE, due to legalities surrounding the creation of the T'Pau character.

Another famous Vulcan we'll see in the flesh (or in some way, shape, or form) on ENTERPRISE this season is 'Surak' himself, the founder of the Vulcan philosophy of logic, and whose teachings delivered Vulcan from an era of vicious war and violence. A facsimille of Surak was seen in TOS's "The Savage Curtain." According to rumor, 'Syrran' is a Vulcan that 'Archer' meets in the Vulcan desert and who helps guide the Vulcan of the prequel era back toward Surak's teachings.

Another role they're looking to fill for this episode is 'Kurak'. This is also the name of a female Klingon warp-scientist to appear in TNG's "Suspicions." No further information about the role ENT is looking to fill is available, but there has been no indication of any Klingon involvement in the Vulcan arc.

Stay with TrekWeb for more information as it becomes available. The episode in question will likely go before cameras next week, and air in November.



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By: StarWorld (Odo's file, contact) @ 15:24:24 on Sep 17, 2004

Steve, no offense you are wasting your time trying to talk about how the show is run. People are just angry about their show and the direction it's going and they want to blame everyone down to the PA for not standing up to Berman and changing it.

I've worked in TV for years, and still do from time to time and let me tell you when you have someone like Berman (which is 90%) of the excutives in the business you know damn well you don't say ANYTHING to them but good morning and good afternoon if you want to keep your job.

There is nothing Coto can do but his best and hope that Berman and Braga don't take his idea's and tell him to go back to the drawing board.

Moore had the same problems on Voyager but he quit because he wasn't about to report to Braga every week. Or at least that's the jist of what happened.

I wish Coto all the luck, and I still think Enterprise is a much better show then VOYAGER EVER WAS. The look and style of Enterprise's 1st year was amazing. I though most of last year was just silly and boring but it was still better then anything Voyager could put together in 7 years.

Anyway, good luck trying to convince them steve... by the way are you in LA now? You still keeping in touch with Eric S? Eric told me to email you sometime and get together but I never found your posts until now.


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By: TRexx (Odo's file, contact) @ 19:43:15 on Sep 16, 2004

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In the second installment in the arc, currently untitled, TrekWeb has learned that at least two Vulcan notables will make an appearance.


Considering ENT's abuse of Vulcans, including Manny Coto's treatment of T'Pol in S3, this special attention to the species may be a disaster. Vulcans are a Trek icon, thanks to Spock; if S4 further mutilates the archetype, ENT may go from being a laughing stock to being seriously despised by Star Trek fans.


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By: Gary P (Odo's file, contact) @ 16:24:23 on Sep 16, 2004

It would be great if the Vulcan Reformists actually talk like Spock and make assertions based on 'logic'. If you really listen to Spock's dialogue (or, dare I say, Tuvok's), it will remind you of how his character was written with tremendous care, unlike some present vulcans that we know.


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