One hundred, baby!!!
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Ok, move along, move along
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"We claim that picnic area in the name of the Klingon Empire!"- PvPOnline, 9/2/04
I'm wondering when she actually said these things because it seems to me -- from everything we've been reading -- that Manny Coto will be addressing the "Vulcan Issue" this season.
Is it possible she said these things before the Vulcan Reformation trilogy episodes were announced?
Don't be a playa hater!.....
...hate the game, not the player
I hope those who have been pointing out to the rest of us the Zap2it article from October 2003 have actually read it. If so, they'd see her comments from there aren't nearly the same as what she's been saying recently. Case in point, from the aforementioned article...
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The goal is to find the mysterious Xindi, an alien race that staged a preemptive strike on Earth in the season-two finale, killing millions.
"Yay, for one thing," Blalock says of the show's new mission. "It's always fun to have more action, more story line, more reason for doing what we're doing. The characters, especially Scott Bakula's character, Capt. Archer, are going to be more driven."
Season three also meant a makeover for Blalock, who spent the first two seasons with her blond hair tucked under a short, dark wig and her hourglass figure poured into a drab, high-necked cat suit. The wig is longer and lighter, and the cat suits now come in brighter colors and have plunging necklines -- but aren't any easier to wear.
"The blue one is the least comfortable," she says, "because it's not a stretchy material. It doesn't have a lot of give. Once you're strapped in, you're strapped in."
During filming, Blalock usually has her back zipper undone. "That's just so I can use the restroom without having to ask permission," she says.
Because, in the future, women would certainly choose to wear skintight cat suits. "Yes, of course," Blalock says with a laugh. "The liberated woman, at least. It's just the male viewers. It's the boys."
While earlier seasons hinted at sexual tension between the emotionally controlled T'Pol and the easygoing Archer, producers have shifted that focus to T'Pol and Enterprise's chief engineer, southerner "Trip" Tucker (Connor Trinneer) -- as evidenced by the topless (if discreet) mutual-massage scene in the season premiere.
Blalock laughs at the thought. "They write it, I do it. I don't see it, personally. T'Pol's a Vulcan -- how could she have a relationship? And he's so emotional. My goodness, he's like a nut case. So how are this nut case and this person who has her stuff together going to find common ground? Maybe that's the basis.
"We'll find out, because I'm not sure how that's going to evolve."
So, other than her comments about the outfits, and her amusement over the idea of the Trip/T'Pol pair-up, I certainly did not see in that article the degree of negativity or objection I saw in the recent Cinefantastique interview. Yes, she does seem to question the logic of Trip and T'Pol as a couple, but before that, in practically the same breath, she says "They write it, I do it". She speaks about the Trip/T'Pol thing a great deal more strongly here , in the Sci-Fi Channel interview she did in late July 2004...
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Last season, T'Pol found herself losing control of her emotions and eventually hooking up with crewmate Trip Tucker (Connor Trinneer)—a story arc Blalock confessed she wasn't crazy about. Would she like to see that relationship continue into the new season? "I don't know what to think about that," she admitted. "I think it's absolutely ridiculous that some catfish-eating honky-tonk guy would be appealing to this serene character, personally, but, you know, maybe there's something in the difference. ... It depends on the writing. It depends on how it evolves. It can't just be, 'Hey, buddy, let's go do it.' Like, what is that?"
But, see, by the time this article was posted, she was already on her current bandwagon, so I'm still not sold on the idea that she's spoken out so vehemently on this before these past couple of months.
And, you know what? If it bothered her that much before, she damn well should've spoken up! Why would she want to act against what she personally believes in for her character? What actor would put up with that, other than one so desperate to stay on the payroll and in some sort of spotlight that she'd compromise her principles? If she valued the character of T'Pol and the portrayal of the Vulcan race as much as she claims, she should've been more willing to raise her objections a lot sooner, when the fan outcry about it was beginning to increase in volume.
It's easy for her to speak out *now*, because the disappointment is WAY out in the open, moreso even than it was at the beginning of season 3. So, I stick by my belief that all of this is empty patronization. The only way her comments will gain value is if they're followed up on by the writers. Manny Coto seems to be interested in doing this, but I'll believe it all when I see it.
As in other interviews, I ask: when did she do this interview? Was it before Coto was brought aboard to deal with issues like these? If so, then you need to remember that when reading this. If not, then she's not satisfied with the new eps either - which could mean either they're badly done, or she's wrong - we'll find out after the shows air.
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"Who are you, and how did you get in here??"
"I'm a locksmith, and... I'm a locksmith".
- "Police Squad"
I get the strong feeling that Jolene is trying to rescue her own image and reputation with these all-too-public comments criticizing Enterprise, whether it be the writing or the show's chances for survival. Sorry, but it smacks too much of egoism and very little of team play.
I'm sure that given Jolene's popularity with the fans and importance to the show she could easily raise these issues and her concerns about her character with the writers - where it will do the most good. IMO that's the most direct way to solve the problem.
Spouting a bunch of criticisms in genre magazines that do nothing to burnish the already shaky reputation of the show with the fans seems very much like a self-serving ploy to try to restore her reputation.
The real issuse here, IMHO, is that inconsistent characterization has been the crux of Brannon Braga's weakness as a writer on this series.
For heaven sake, facets of Archer's character were changed willy nilly from week to week in the first two seasons, depending on what the plot demanded. Even Phlox was not immune from the characterization serves plot syndrome from time to time.
It is only with Mike Sussman's episodes in the second season and then Coto's influence in the third that we began to get a clear, consistent picture of who Archer was.
I have every confidence that with Sussman and Coto handling more of the writing duties, characterization will improve across the board. Now admittedly, I haven't read the entire interview, but I just don't like Ms. Blalock sounding so much to the press as if she has lost faith in the series.
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"Make just a ripple. Come on be brave. This time a ripple - next time a wave."
As Timo points out from this article from last October, this is not the first time Blalock has voiced publicly dissatisfaction with her character's writing. Also, all of the people jumping to the conclusion that she has never spoken up are not considering the possibility that she may have been doing just that internally for years, but only now feels compelled to discuss it publicly. Give the woman a break. Ironically, Scorned's entire first paragraph of rant essentially criticizes her for making the same criticisms he's been making for years, and then he tells her to quit if she's so unhappy. Gee, kind of like how Scorned could quit watching the show if he is so unhappy.
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It's a rip-off. / We're stepped on, and cheated! / We're flat, stone-cold lied to / But we're not defeated / No!
Halen. "The Dream is Over."
I have no problem with Jolene giving constructive criticism and her words makes sense. I'm just wondering why the public has to hear it. It's first and foremost the writers who needs to take her thoughts into consideration. My guess is they don't listen to her (or that's what she thinks) and she has lost her faith in the shows ability to survive. She is voicing her frustration now, and I can accept that (as long as it stays constructive). It may even help the cause provided the writers will look out for fan reaction and realize, she is right. (If the fans could agree on something for a change.)
She's exactly right.
Ohhh..she said that the Vulcan characterization is inconsistent both in relation to TOS and within Enterprise.
Will Braga (and some locals) call her a continuity pornographer, as they do fans who hold the same points of view?
Here comes Jolene to echo pretty much everything people have a problem with regarding Vulcans on Enterprise, and she's torn to shreds.
Could it be that this board is primarily made up of:
a. Jealous Ugly Women, who feel threatened by beautiful women.
and
b. Jealous Ugly Men, who could never in a million years hope to be with someone like Jolene.
Just wondering.
And in response to Scorned who criticised Jolene for disliking the "sexing up" of her character but was fine with doing nudity ... perhaps she would be fine with doing nudity in a film or show if it fit into the story better. I'm pretty sure she was talking about nude scenes in general, and not specifically about Enterprise.
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Think of Enterprise another way. There's a girl you used to date and had some great times with. Tons of memories. Only now she's dumped you, started telling stories about your time together that are missing important details and is hanging out with some idiot jock who likes explosions. And every week at 8PM they come into your living room to have sex in front of you.
For the past few weeks we have seen many interviews by ENT cast members about the upcoming season. Every interview that Jolene has done has been basically the same thing. She slams the show that has made her famous. (I use the word famous lightly here.) The only VALID point she has made has been the poor way Vulcans have been portrayed through out the history of ENT. That is it! Last season showed the worst display of a Vulcan character ever. The idea of a "anorexic crack whore Vulcan" was just ridiculous. Now she has this big chip on shoulder it seems and she is out bashing the show, the writers etc. Excuse me but this show was like winning the lottery for ANYONE in acting in Hollywood. Her acting as a whole is terrible. She can't act. Anyone else would of been happy to have landed that role. I will even say that some of the magazines may have "misquoted" her to jazz up the story because controversy sells papers and magazine. But this chip on her shoulder seems to be very evident in all the interviews lately. As a main cast member slamming the show does nothing. It doesn't attract new fans. It doesn't make current fans very thrilled. It makes her look like one of these actors who is always bitching about everything (a case of an over inflated ego!) If she is that unhappy with the role then maybe she should quit the show! Personally I would VERY much like it if she quit. They can EASILY find someone else to fill her shoes. Possibly get someone who CAN act to play a "Deltan" character
After reading her comments I find it VERY hard to believe that she watched ANY of TOS. No where in her comments does she make ANY reference to TOS, TNG, DS9 or VOY. She is mad about her Vulcan character but she FAILS to use examples of past series/movies to back it up. NO where does she say "Spock does and says this, Tuvok says and does this in episode..etc" The ONLY thing Vulcan she has done last season was RIP OFF the line for STII "The needs of the many out weight the needs of the few". So if she has something to say then maybe she should spend some time preparing her thoughts and comments.
So I think she has let off some steam and I think Jolene should suck it up and get back to work. It doesn't help the struggling show with main cast members being quoted as saying "This is probably the last season any ways". With that pissy attitude of "who give a shit" then why would anyone want to watch it to begin with?
Oh yes Star Trek is so bad. That is why she charges $50,000 for a 2 hr "autograph session"?
Quote:"an exclusive interview with STAR TREK ENTERPRISE star Jolene Blalock, in which the actress talks to journalist Jeff Bond about her disappointment in the overall level of writing on the show. Here are a few excerpts.
I wouldn't call this a "exclusive" because she has been pissing and moaning these past couple of months.
Quote:""The concepts with the shows aren't the problem; I think the concepts are amazing," Blalock told the magazine
And what amazing concepts is she talking about? The cowboy episode of S3? The dumb sick dog in S2? The fact that Archer gets kidnapped every week?
Quote:"The issue is the dialogue. I personally believe that T'Pol should have more of her Vulcan culture. I don't believe she should be so desperate to be like everyone else, because the original STAR TREK which I grew up with, had a very simple message that I took from it, and that is that not everyone is like me, and I'm not perfect, and nobody's perfect, and that's okay. That really helped me.
WHAT in the hell is she talking about? I find it VERY hard to believe that Jolene has watched even one episode of TOS. I think she watched a different Star Trek series then the rest of us.
Is she suppose to be walking about talking in Vulcan? In her quarters you see the candles for meditating. Much like you saw in Tuvok and Spocks quarters in STVI. They already dealt with the issue of her "fitting it" with Archer and Tucker yelling at her calling her a "snob" and how the Vulcans are arrogant jerks. She is the only Vulcan on a human ship. So it is very understandable for her to try and fit in. Otherwise what would be the point? Every week of her going back to her quarters having no interaction with the rest of cast. Does she wish to rip off the "debates" between Spock and McCoy? Of course that would assume that she watched TOS which I find VERY doubtful.
Quote:" I think that T'Pol could be okay with being Vulcan, she shouldn't have to want to be Vulcan."
No where has T'Pol said or demonstrated that she is not happy being a Vulcan. She is the only Vulcan on a human ship. So she has to adapt to that. I think she is just talking out of her ass.
Quote:"In the dialogue... why is it that when we're trying to teach each other something, all of our analogies involve Earth lore? Don't our cultures have their own lore that might make for good messages."
Again she is on a HUMAN ship with a HUMAN crew. What are they suppose to be talking about all the time "Klingon" stories? They have in the past had her talk about "Vulcan" in a positive way. The Vulcans can't be doing the same things as humans. Then there is no difference between the two.
Quote:"Ironically, Blalock'a attitude is in line with that of many old-guard TREK fans who see ENTERPRISE as diluting the core elements of the franchise mythology; for Blalock the damage is done in small increments.
First off she is NOT in line with the old guard Trek fans. She would of had to have watched TOS and not listen to "reviews" by people who did and call that watching. If she is such a fan of TOS and Star Trek then she should of quoted SOMETHING from past series or movies. I have yet to see any examples provided by her. Dax on this site knows MORE about Vulcans than she claims to be. I find it funny how she never made any comments about ENT like this until now. Sudden things are bad?
Quote:"In [the first season's] 'Shadows of P'Jem', they made this huge story about how Vulcans were undermining Starfleet and had some kind of agenda, but they never went to readdress it." says Blalock "Then there's this episode in which T'Pol gets sick, terminally ill, and they never readdress it. There's the characteristic where Vulcans don't eat food with their hands, and yet they'll write scenes where T'Pol is eating popcorn at a movie or Trip will bring T'Pol a peach. It's just so strange to me, and I think that as a character you should be okay with who you are and or who you're meant to be."
FINALLY she now gives examples! There were MANY things that have been left unaddressed. It was just not the Vulcans stuff. That whole TCW thing was completely abandoned in S3 along with just about everything else. This was the problem that I said for doing an entire season on the boring Xindi. You have nothing else working in the background. If the ratings during the Xindi arc feel they had no where else to go but cancellation. There was nothing else in the back ground that they could of worked with. That was the stupid of Berman and Braga at its best.!! They never said that T'Pol was terminally ill. That whole RIDICULOUS Aids/Mindmeld thing said she had a chronic condition. The popcorn thing is just silly.
It has be maddening for somebody to play a character and not have something as basic as how they eat be consistent. That may sound like a small thing, but considering how many times these character are in the mess hall, or talking about chef, or their favorite foods, it isn't on Enterprise, particularly in the first season. T'Pol has been remarkably inconsistent with a character, but the series has been inconsistent from the start. Its underpinnings of seat of the pants exploration convenient disappeared with the Xindi Arc (before actually) and that arc will go this year. Will the temporal cold war be solved? She has a right to recognize what's going on with her character. She shows up to work and she is entitled to an opinion. Her attitude on the inconsistency of the character has been pretty consistent from the beginning. Now I need to stop because I have to find more synonyms.
If this was anybody else making these criticisms, like bakula or billingsey, you people would have nothing but high praise on these boards....
T'pol's criticisms are in line with the fans criticisms of the Vulcan directions, and yet trekkies can't handle a pretty girl making intelligent comments.
Quote from GustavoLeao:
The latest issue of Cinefantastique magazine, just out in the US, features an exclusive interview with STAR TREK ENTERPRISE star Jolene Blalock, in which the actress talks to journalist Jeff Bond about her disappointment in the overall level of writing on the show.
I disapprove of some of Jolene Blalock's lifestyle choices, so I can't say that I'm a fan of the person. But, I've seen most of her TV interviews, where she shows more Star Trek savvy than all of the other ENT cast combined (with the exception of John Billingsley). Everything I've read and heard about/from Blalock indicates that she's serious about portraying a believable Science Officer and Vulcan character, even though her reach can exceed her grasp in the acting department.
Blalock's complaining about T'Pol isn't a new thing. She expressed exasperation about the direction of her character early in S3, e.g. in an October 2003 Zap2It article. I don't believe she's only paying lip service to appease grumbling fans. Blalock appeared uncomfortable talking about T'Pol in her last several TV interviews.
ENT insiders have said that the writers generally don't care what the actors think of their characters. Good for Blalock for showing more balls than the male actors in identifying her frustration.
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Is it just me, or does it seem like she's getting someone to summarize criticism made of ENT into talking points for her? I mean, no offense to good looking people, but it always seems that brains + beauty equals a constant. Maybe it's the slight mix of cynicism and paranoia in my personality, but I just don't buy her suddenly coming up with these faults that have been mentioned almost constantly. It's certainly better than Braga coming out and NOT acknowledging what's wrong with the show, I just don't think she's ever really cared about the difference between ENT and the Trek she "grew up with."
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"We claim that picnic area in the name of the Klingon Empire!"- PvPOnline, 9/2/04
and you'll end up auditioning for a role in "Unemployment Line" LOL
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"I can't be President. I mean, I've abused cocaine and I've been arrested. Besides, its completely stupid to believe somebody can be President just because his father was."
--Charlie Sheen (Saturday Night Live 2000)
RE: Alright Jolene, Keep it up,
by Jadzia-Dax @ 07:30:43 on Sep 11
RE: Alright Jolene, Keep it up,
by Meglo @ 10:53:05 on Sep 11
RE: Alright Jolene, Keep it up,
by Jadzia-Dax @ 19:48:20 on Sep 11
RE: Alright Jolene, Keep it up,
by Meglo @ 01:12:55 on Sep 12
RE: Alright Jolene, Keep it up,
by Jadzia-Dax @ 08:16:40 on Sep 12
I've Been Watching The Older Eps
by Jean-Luc @ 20:46:20 on Sep 11
I've Been Watching The Older Eps
by Jean-Luc @ 20:45:56 on Sep 11
RE: I've Been Watching The Older Eps
by Jadzia-Dax @ 08:40:28 on Sep 12
RE: Alright Jolene, Keep it up,
by Cybersoldier @ 03:11:04 on Sep 11
RE: Alright Jolene, Keep it up,
by icedtea @ 04:02:41 on Sep 11
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