I find it odd that they'd throw two different concepts that have been kicking around for years into one movie.
But what ever happens, happens.
So, everyone is assuming that this will be the daily events in cadets at Starfleet, I assume.
What if they did it from the perspective of the teachers, and administration...so more of a comparison, since that seems to be the thing to do...it would be more of a Boston Public (but college) thing. Does that make it any better? I dunno, just wondering.
I am willing to hear more about it before I make a full judgement.
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in Trek's coffin. Noone wants to see StarTrek:90210 especially in a movie format. Again going back in time(noone is really intrested in a prequel..hint..enterprise rating woes), unknown cast, unpopular concept along with B&B(coming fresh from a massive B.O disaster Nemesis) would surely crash and burn star trek for good. I would wager the movie wont even crack the first five at the B.O on its release and would make Nemesis look like a hit. I think they are doing it purposefully to bury star trek off for once and for all.
If there's a god out there; we Trekkies need some serious divine intervention to save our beloved franchsie from the harbingers of doom B&B
It's been obvious for quite a while now that Paramount has been chasing two different audiences with regards to Trek:
1. The "mainstream" audience.
2. The 18-49, young person, Spiderman 2 demographic.
Let us look at each one:
1. The mainstream audience - Trek is never going to appeal to a wide audience the way traditional dramas can because it will never completely shed it's stigma of being entertainment for overweight, acne-ridden 35-y/o virginal losers living in their parent's basement. People who don't already like science fiction & fantasy aren't going to just suddenly decide one day to start watching Trek, no matter how many cool explosions, decon chamber rub-downs and brief glimpses of T'Pol's buttcrack Bermaga throw at the screen. Dumbing Trek down by stripping the show of it's social messages and higher-concept sci-fi ideas in favor of standard action-adventure fare, essentially turning it into Andromeda Lite, isn't going to bring in a new audience. All it will do is alienate the old audience, which are the only ones keeping Trek alive. If I wanted to watch cheesy genre crap I'd tune in for the aforementioned Andromeda or Stargate. Trek is supposed to be something more meaty, more substantial.
2. The younger audience - this is no longer the 60's. Trek is no longer cutting edge (funny to think of TOS in terms of being cutting edge, but it was back then). Space flight is no longer science fiction, but a reality that has become so commonplace that a space shuttle launch no longer merits news coverage. Today's kids grow up in an age of home video game consoles, digital television, movies with CG effects undreampt of just 10 years ago, computer games of every conceivable sort, and of course the internet with it's neverending supply of porn. What is there about Trek in 2004 that is supposed to be compelling to the average 15 year old? T'Pol's boob? They can see that any day of the week by logging on and surfing the net. Explosions? Been there, done that.
Add to that the aforementioned stigma of un-cool nerdiness that has always surrounded Trek, and it's no wonder kids not only don't watch, they no longer even know what Trek is.
Starfleet Academy will bring in younger viewers? What makes you think so? That 15 y/o can tune in to see the OC for his weekly dose of trashy soap opera, and he'll get more exposed skin, naughty behavior and soft-core hijinks than Trek could possibly provide.
LOL! Isn't it amazing in light of the taudry exploitation of T'Pol that the fans once complained about Seven? Seven now seems downright demure by comparison, and her character Shakespearean in retrospect. As I've said in the past, let's give Jeri Ryan some credit for taking a juvenile exercise in female body part oogling and creating a half-way decent character that actually had some development over the years.
I dont know if anyone has this pathetic game, but back in 1996-97 Paramount released a PC game called Starfleet Academy!! Is this what the movie will be???
By the way...Shatner, Koenig, and Takei played themselves in this game. Their dialogue was pretty interesting, but the cadets acting was horrible and boring.
If this is what the movie is...WE'RE DOOMED!!!
Can someone please tell me why Paramount is so afraid too get rid of Berman?
From ScreenRant.com:
It has been reported in recent days that Rick Berman has been tossing out comments concerning an 11th Star Trek film, despite the abysmal performance of Star Trek: Nemesis. The word is that it would be a prequel to the original series, but take place long enough after Star Trek: Enterprise that none of that series' cast would be in it.
Now... how would you revive what was once a beloved (revered, even by some) franchise? One which was responsible for redefining Sci Fi in film and on televison? Wouldn't you maybe think that it was time to stop messing around and bring in some big guns as far as writing and directing talent? Give Berman, Braga, and Frakes a pass and go find yourself maybe a David Hayter to write it and someone along the lines of Brian Singer, Sam Raimi, or some other really good director to take the helm?
Naaaaaaaaaaaah.
How about if we team up a movie executive who's entire production resume consists of executive producing the pilot to Miami Vice and the recent made-for-TV movie Homeland Security (Kerry McCluggage), and the producer of such recent classics as Inspector Gadget (I & II), Snow Dogs, George of the Jungle (I & II), and three of the Mighty Ducks movies (Jordan Kerner).
Yeah! That's the ticket...
Sad, isn't it? It would be funnier to me if I wasn't a long-time Star Trek fan. But what can you expect from the people who blamed the poor performance of Nemesis on us instead of the fact that it was a terrible film?
Harve Bennett's STARFLEET ACADEMY was shunned by fans and Paramount when it was written but the fact is it could work very well right now.
The movie opens and climaxes with William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy at Starfleet and the rest of the film is a long flashback to their younger days (to be played by younger actors of course). It was supposedly moving, action-packed and nostalgic and actually showed how Kirk and Spock met and how the latter dealt with bigotry and assorted obstacles and how Kirk fell in love and lost the lady.
If this was made today it could be great. You could incorporate new fans who are seeing the film for the younger actors and you could bring in the nostalgia crowd who grew up with TREK and who left the franchise more or less during ENTERPRISE'S first run.
It could be a great film if in the right hands and you could also have appearances by Scotty (a beautiful way for James Doohan to bid farewell during these tough times for him). Sulu, Checkhov and Uhura would also be featured.
I think Bennet's film could work now.
The Starfleet Academy idea was a bad one in the 1980s for Star Trek V, and it's even worse now.
Star Trek is about moving FORWARD. How about a movie(s) set 100-200 years past Voyager? Let's see how the Federation looks in another day. Maybe one of the hostile species (Romulans, perhaps?) are a part of the Federation. Or maybe the Federation is a shell of its former self from a Borg invasion and it is just starting to rebuild again.
Like Gene Roddenberry did with TNG, make it similar enough to old Trek but different enough to intrigue another generation of fans. Then if the movie(s) did well, spin them off into the next Star Trek series.
And I'd gamble and not use the name Star Trek at all. Market the heck out of the movie as just a cool futuristic movie. The hardcore fans would know, but the non-Trekker might get hooked without even realizing its Star Trek.
Let's face it. If a movie had come out called Star Trek: The Maxtrix, or Star Trek: The Lord of the Rings, the movie would be lucky to do $90 million at the box office. People who have decided they don't like Star Trek will never go watch a Star Trek movie. So don't call it Star Trek.
What do I think of a Starfleet Academy series? Well, let's see...how has Trek handled it's teenage characters in the past:
Wesley - nuff' said.
Jake - an improvement, but still not a strong character. His "look, I'm a Starfleet reporter!" Jimmy Olsen act in seasons 5-7 was ludicrous. Frankly, Nog was a more interesting teenage character.
Naomi - the passive-aggressive little bitch from Voyager with the horns on her head - lame lame lame lame lame.
Icheb and the Borg brats - Icheb was boring bordering on catatonic, the girl was boring, and the twins never even spoke.
Sooooo, does any of this give me any confidence that they can pull off a Trek:90210? Not at all. An entire series populated with perfect, spotless little Starfleet drones with flawless smiles and soft, supple skin? Yawn.....
I've been reading all of the posts about this "Starfleet Academy" idea and I am seeing what I thought I'd be seeing - tons of rejection. I agree. I don't like the idea. But I think that's what Paramount wants.
I think Paramount knows that the established fan base is expendable. If you're old enough to have watched TNG on television and definetely if you have fond memories of watching TOS on NBC, then, like me, you're getting too old for Paramount to care about what you want.
One of the posters below hinted that the powers that be want a young audience. I think that is what they're after. A younger audience who has never watched Star Trek will accept something not acceptable to the established base. They know we'll see it. If we don't like it, they won't care. They want these young kids to like it so that they can grow a new fan base that will some day be as dedicated to the show as we are. They are done with us.
You know who DOES care about what we want? Priceline.com. And we're completely buying into it! Why are they giving us Shatner & Nimoy? Because we love it and we have a lot more money than kids to spend at Priceline.com. I like what they've done and I have no problem with it. It's good marketing.
I wouldn't doubt if the producers of Star Trek XI will have half naked girls, potty jokes, and cursing in their new flick. Kids love that. It could be an intergalactic "Road Trip III". They might not even call it Star Trek XI, because that title would be a movie for US. This is Starfleet: The Motion Picture. And may the ride begin again. Most of us are just too old for the amusement park this time.
But maybe they'll suprise us. In the meantime, I just bought the first two seasons of the West Wing to see what I missed all these years. My goodness! I missed some amazingly good television. Did I just enter a new and different fanbase? It sure satisfies much more than Voyager. And, kinda like TNG, I actually feel smarter after watching it.
First, I have to say that I really enjoy reading Scorned. He's a man after my own heart - angry, inflammatory, and without the slightest notion of subtlety. Keep going for the jugular buddy, it's damn entertaining!
Now, to the issue at hand - The Death of Star Trek.
Like poor Scotty, Trek has suffered from Bermaga-induced Alzheimer's for several years. Voyager sucked for 7 years, Enterprise has sucked for 3 years - that's 10 years of watching Trek slowly swirl down the bowl, leaving a big skid mark in the process. It's sad, maddening, and finally laughable to watch Bermaga and their Paramount overlords flog this bloody corpse to the point of unrecognizability.
I realize that Trek stopped being just a television show a long time ago for a lot of people (Braga's 4 million or so that still tune in faithfully for Ent. every week), and started functioning as some kind of quasi-religion with the The Great Bird as it's spiritual guru, but even these spaced-out zombies have to admit that Bermaga's creative tank has been out of gas for years.
Has anyone from Paramount ever read this bbs? Or TrekBBS? Does anyone there care that fan sentiment is so overwhelmingly negative toward these two men at this point that nothing they do - NOTHING - will be embraced by fandom, regardless of premise? This isn't about Trek per se anymore - it's about fandom's collective hatred (richly justified) of these doofuses who hijacked Trek and systematically destroyed it.
How many years now have fans been consistently pleading for Paramount to wake up and get rid of Bermaga? And how long have our pleas been ignored? What kind of Faustian bargain has Bermaga struck to remain in power this long? Who do they have scandalous pictures of that they can keep their jobs despite such a long track record of creative and ratings failure?
I have said before that I will never watch another episode of first-run Trek as long as Bermaga are in charge, and I'm sticking to my guns. I now expand that boycott to include any future feature film that has Berman or Braga's name attached to it in any way. I don't care if they're only the gaffer or some actor's water-boy. Until they are gone, totally and completely, Trek is dead to me.
As for Braga, you really have to wonder about this gimp. All these years involved with Trek...other people would have wanted to jump to something else long before now, to stretch their creative legs and explore new challenges. But here remains Braga, attached to Trek like a tick. Does this man have any other credits to his name? Anything else on his resume besides Trek?
..if they EVER make that stupid Starfleet Academy movie it will TANK at the boxoffice. Nobody gives a shit about that!
Star Trek needs a LONG deep sleep. Just stop making the shit for a few years and try again later with some people who have talent and lack of burnout.
But, I guess they are going to keep making it until people begin not only show disinterest but geniune DISLIKE for Star Trek.
Gotta bludgeon that cash cow don't we?
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I don't have a problem with a prequel set at Starfleet Academy. With the right cast of twenty somethings it could work but would real world twenty somethings go to the movies to see these actors in anything with STAR TREK in the title?
Still, that Paramount is revisiting the idea of a Starfleet Academy movie hows Paramounts willingness to try something different to keep the franchise alive (and keep in mind that this is viewed as a new idea -- no one in power there today was there 15 years ago). This is either a hopeful sign or simply a sign of desperation.
Launching something entirely new in a feature film may be the way to go. Something unfamiliar is what may be needed to draw fans into theaters. Sure, there may be a lot of bitching and moaning but most people may want to check it out. It could be the first true Star Trek movie event in a very, very long time.
Rather than admit that the relentless dilution of the Star Trek concept has resulted in disinterest, it seems they're going to abandoned everything the show was about. The only shows that have been successful in a large way (TOS and TNG) did not stray from the timeless formula of exploring strange new worlds. None of the the spinoffs since TNG, despite the protestations of their supporters, have generated substantial mass appeal. DS9 was a very good show, but had little to do with Star Trek's basic concept. You can have phasers, uniforms and starships and not have Star Trek, because Star Trek was about certain ideals and human impulses and not space battles. And what is all this stuff about "darkness"-- anybody who wants to be trendy thinks that dark clothing, dark lighting or gross out plots make something modern? They know they can save money doing Trek on the cheap with unknowns, no planets and fewer effects. There are a million ambitious stories that would make a terrific movie, but those will not be considered. We don't need a Beta-5 computer to know this will not work, simply because people expect something from Star Trek, that's why the concept is so perfect, the name says what it's about. Not anymore.
RE: Not a clue, not a clue at all...
by spacebeluga @ 10:27:22 on Jul 19
RE: Not a clue, not a clue at all...
by Steve Krutzler @ 10:08:33 on Jul 19
RE: Not a clue, not a clue at all...
by TRexx @ 11:09:58 on Jul 19
One reply, that's it
by Postdoc @ 10:33:34 on Jul 19
RE: One reply, that's it
by Steve Krutzler @ 11:46:10 on Jul 19
RE: One reply, that's it
by TRexx @ 13:08:26 on Jul 19
RE: One reply, that's it
by Steve Krutzler @ 13:41:52 on Jul 19
RE: One reply, that's it
by spacebeluga @ 01:14:14 on Jul 20
RE: One reply, that's it
by Nuclearmothman @ 17:04:41 on Jul 19
RE: One reply, that's it
by Steve Krutzler @ 17:47:09 on Jul 19
I've been dying to see the Romulan Wars ever since I first saw Balance of Terror. However, this is NOT a feature film story. If anything, it should be a mini-series. I mean honestly - who will go see it? The hard-core fans? The same people who saw the last Trek film, which bombed? No, the next featue film NEEDS to be huge. Not something that could ever be done in an episode (a la the last two films). I agree somewhat with the first poster about a Borg film. Trouble is, the Borg are tired. The Klingons are boring these days. No more time travel - uggh. The Cardassians are too obscure as far as the casual Trek fan or the rest of the world is concerned.
I think we need one more TNG film, and with Q as the natural adversary. We generally LIKE and KNOW Q. He's a sympathetic villain, so we could avoid a cookie cutter baddie like the last two. ANYTHING is possible, plotwise, when he's involved. He was there at the beginning, he SHOULD be there at the end. Bring a few new writers. Bring in a GOOD director. Market it correctly, and don't release it a week before the biggest film of the year (al la The two Towers - still, what were they thinking?). We can have one last, proper Trek film, but the one being pitched isn't it. This idea, if it comes to fruition, will truly be the last death knell for Star Trek. It WILL bomb.
This is my first ever post about anything trek so please be gentle.
I’m curious, why would the producers of star trek make a successful star trek movie like First contact and then go on to make flop after flop, then another flop??
Would it not make sense to bring back the Borg for another movie? And when I say bring back the Borg I don’t mean the watered down pansy ass Borg from voyager, I mean the relentless, unstoppable Borg we all loved. And not just one piddley cube either. Why not inject some reality and have the Borg fully invade the alpha quadrant with hundreds of cubes assimilating entire “well known” planets? Why not have the federation and all alpha quadrant planets overrun?
The way I see it is that Trek is about to die anyway, at least they could go out fighting in one last, very dark movie, they could even pull a series out of the ashes focusing on a small armada of surviving ships as they struggle to escape, assuming the film did well!
Perhaps this wouldn’t work because voyager already watered down the Borg to much?
I personally don’t think Trek is out of steam just yet, but the “federation and all the goody goodyness of it” is. It is time to shake up what is left of the franchise and bring back that edge of your seat feeling that you can only have by popping off loads of well know actors/ships/planets. You need to be worried for the characters that are left, not knowing who will be killed off or assimilated next, in my opinion anyway.
I say Trek needs to get very very dark in an un prequel way, this prequel crap already takes the edge off the whole thing because you already know earth, humanity aren’t destroyed. I find it impossible to be worried for the characters because you always know they will be okay at the end of the episode. It is the same fate as star wars, people want to see what happens NEXT, not before. The slogan says, boldly go where no man has been before, after all.
Quote from Dave McNary, Variety:
Par wants a "re-imagining" of the concept, meaning there won't be any of the characters that peopled the TV shows and movies.
The TV/movie characters are just the writers' instruments, they aren't the root of Star Trek's rot. ENT is evidence that new onscreen faces (and a prequel setting) aren't a formula for success. Paramount bosses should consider that serious "re-imaging" begins at the management level: Berman and Braga are like vampires sucking at the franchise neck; if they aren't removed then an infusion of fresh creative (writer) blood isn't likely to revive the withering cash cow.
Quote:
In an era where $200 million is now the benchmark of success and with Paramount espousing a "swing for the fences" mantra, another "Trek" movie may not arrive before Halley's Comet returns.
Star Trek XI could be a documentary by then! Comet Halley's next perihelion passage will be in 2061, just two years before Zefram Cochrane's first warp flight. ;-)
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The franchise's appeal alone isn't enough to guarantee a good gross, especially without familliar faces, so they need A-list talent. If it's going to be 'Starfleet Academy,' then they'll have to take a page from the glorious or infamous tradition of films such as 'SWAT,' 'Remember the Titans,' 'The Mask of Zorro' and 'Top Gun.' Up and coming (and likely very attractive) young stars mentored by at least one older veteran actor, preferrably with the star wattage of Anthony Hopkins and not Tom Skerritt.
You didn't pay enough attention, Steve. Frakes said this a few days ago:
"And I also hear there’s a prequel in development – Starfleet Academy. I’m actually having dinner with all those guys tonight, I’ll get all the dish for you and tell you what’s really happening with Star Trek."
There can only be one reason why he knows about this and why he's having dinner with the producers. I'd be surprised if they didn't ask him to get involved and possibly direct, and I'd be equally surprised if Frakes said no.
Jan S.
Who knows, this could be a blessing in disguise. If they are doing a Starfleet Academy movie set during the Romulan Wars, then they probably won't cover the major events. If done right, it could be a coming of age story about a group of Starfleet Academy cadets fighting against the odds for survival after a routine training mission goes awry. True, that guy Jordan Kerner did produce such atrocities like the Inspector Gadget and George of the Jungle movies and Snow Dogs, but he also produced A Wrinkle in Time, Uprising, and Less Than Zero, so he's not that bad. Besides, when you really think about it, he could be a great choice for a movie that would have an ensemble of young actors. Plus, there he could be a clue to a possible director of the movie. This guy named Jon Avnet who has directed Uprising, Red Corner, Up Close & Personal, The War, and Fried Green Tomatoes (all Kerner productions). He also co-produced a ton of other Kerner production movies, other movies he produced were Risky Business, Tango & Cash (cheesy, but classic), Steal this Movie, the TV series Boomtown, and most recently Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow. So I wouldn't mind him directing, though he's just speculation on my part. As for Kerry McCluggage, all I could find at imdb.com is that he was executive producer of Maimi Vice's pilot episode and a TV movie Homeland Security so I don't know about him, but I am confident in Kerner's ability to help produce a good-maybe even great Star Trek film. I'll be even more glad if Jon Avnet jump onboard to at least co-produce if not to direct Star Trek XI. Again, I am cautiously optimistic. Don't judge a movie by its producers.
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Sit down, shut up, and just watch the show!
It is quite humorous how so many are so afraid, scared to death even of "re-imagining" Star Trek. Folks, it's time to grow up and accept the little changes in life and learn to cope.
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After reading this mess I still can't believe it. I would like to know what DICKHEAD at Paramount is green lighting any of this mess thinking that it will sell? What Star Trek fans did they talk to thinking that they would like this idea? I can't believe Paramount thinks the Trek fans are going to actually swallow this mess.
Quote:"Following recent revelations from Rick Berman that an eleventh STAR TREK feature film is in the early stages of development despite the 2002 franchise-low performance for STAR TREK: NEMESIS; the fact that it is yet another "prequel" concept with no relation to the television series ENTERPRISE; and Brannon Braga's offhand remark that the project involves the historic Romulan Wars (story), industry trade Variety is stirring the pot further.
So this means Braga lied? Wow, why I am not surprised!? It is typical of Braga.
Quote:"According to the trade, Berman and Braga are working with Jordan Kerner and Kerry McCluggage are developing a new project -- presumably the same -- as a "Star Fleet Academy" concept."
So what is it? Star Trek:90210 or the Romulan war arc(aka Episode II: Battle of Geonosis)? What the hell is wrong with these people? They are grasping at straws and are clearly showing us how incompetent and out of touch "suits" are. I think that STXI and Star Trek as a whole is going in the same direction as the so called new Superman film.... NO WHERE!
Quote:"Par is being surprisingly cautious about hopes for an 11th feature film.
If they are cautious then I would hate to see them when they are "inpatient".
Quote:"A new installment isn't on the horizon anytime soon. Par wants a 're-imagining' of the concept, meaning there won't be any of the characters that peopled the TV shows and movies. It hasn't yet hired a writer."
So that means they want a whole new cast of "nobody's" so they can pay them nothing and hope the fans will swallow this piece of shit. Allowing them to make some more money. Hence the theory of "getting water from a stone"! How pathetic!
Quote:"Berman has previously indicated that he is working on the prequel project with two other producers. Kerner's credits include two MIGHTY DUCKS films and two INSPECTOR GADGET films. McCluggage is a Paramount studio executive.
So let me get this straight. The next movie is going to be made by 1)Berman, A completely and useless tit. A man who has almost single handily destroyed Star Trek, 2) Jordan Kerner, Who the hell is this guy? The two "MightDucks" and Inspector Gadget films?? HAHAHAH IS THIS A FUCKING JOKE? Paramount is scraping the bottom of the barrel that hard? and 3) Kerry McCluggage: Another "suit"!!! That is exactly what Star Trek DOES NOT NEED IS ANOTHER SUIT LIKE BERMAN ruining Star Trek. Just what the hell has McCluggage done? What movie/TV shows has he made?
This whole thing sounds F'ing RIDICULOUS! That has to be a joke!
Quote:"Braga has previously disavowed any involvement with the new feature project, including at his recent ArcLight Hollywood appearance, in which he stated that he was not involved.
That is the only good news about STXI, Braga is NOT involved. Lets hope that stays true.
Quote:"Former TREK producer Harve Bennett, who produced STAR TREK II through STAR TREK VI, has stated in numerous interviews that he pitched a STARFLEET ACADEMY idea for a future STAR TREK movie while at Paramount in the 1990s. The idea was rejected at the time.
Harve Bennett has played such a major part in making Star Trek a huge franchise. Paramount has treated this man like shit. I don't need to hope this movie bombs because that is already a given. But I hope Bennett is able to go Paramount and LAUGH in their faces when this mess bombs at the theaters.
WHY on Earth with Bennetts track record of making great Trek would you deny his idea and then later STEAL it and let some idiot like Berman with a HORRIBLE track record record for Trek do this project? This again, makes NO sense!
I hope to God that Bennett sues the ass's off of EVERYONE involved with this project!
There is no way in the world I would support this mess. They will not make one dime from me. It is so sad to see Trek become a big joke. A cool concept ruined by stupidity and greed. To all the fans of Trek, when people ask you years from now when and who is responsible for Star Trek's death. You tell them it was in the year 2004 and its name was Rick Berman.
maybe some people can get together and put out a full page ad. i think the "Par" folk are just as frustrated with B&B as we are. i just wish they would step down. they're both fairly intelligent individuals, they should see that maybe it's time to make an exit. Berman was a Roddenberry favorite, but I think he's been tapped dry. Braga seems to have so much contempt for the viewership, i feel like he refers to us as "those people."
the idea itself sounds like it could work out, but I just don't know if these two have any more in them.
i guess time, and S4 of ENT, will tell...
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"The Andorian Mining Consortium runs from no one!" -Shran (ENT "Proving Ground")
"Oh no, the Pawnee have returned. I suppose they'll want their souls back." - C. M. Burns
It sounds TERRIBLE. Period!
My only question is simply - WHY? Why Starfleet Academy? I know, let's redo Friends with 6 new people (SINGS - I'll be there for you-hoo....cause you're there for me too, Kirk. I can see you. Can you see me?), redo Cheers at a different bar in a different city with different characters (BORG!! Want a beer?) and then do Seinfeld in Houston with 3 cowboys, a waitress and a bothersome neighbor named 'Pahk-chu.' People would love it.
However, maybe they just liked the old characters and the way THEY told the story through THEIR acting and THEIR charm and THEIR personality...or we could just redo them all for whatever reason.
I got it - STARFLEET ACADEMY!! That's going to bring them all back!! Yes!! "Brannon - get to it!! And hire that dude from Mighty Ducks - My grandson LOVES that movie!!"
There were TWO Inspector Gadget films? Did they not learn their lesson the first time?
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George Bush to Irish Prime Minister Bertie Aherne after a hard ride on Iraq at an Irish Press Conference (Source "And I quote..." BBC Ceefax service 28/06/04).
OK, so now it's Star Trek meets Mighty Ducks and Inspector Gadget. Does that mean will be treated to lines like "Go Go Gadget Phasers"? For those who are going "This would be really cool", you're probably too young to remember that when Harve Bennett threw an idea like this out it was squashed. Not that what we got was much better (ST 5:TFF). The fact that the "creative team" or lack of creativity team as I refer to them, are having to fall back to old, passed over concept documents just shows that these people need to be fired. It's so frustrating to see the talent that B&B chased away (Moore, Behr, Pillar) have success after repeated success (not that I don't enjoy these shows) while Paramount and UPN for some reason think that B&B can produce a quality show. I'd love to see some of the "old school" (no slam on age) names come back and produce a quality show and movie. I think if the right script was developed for a movie it would really revitalize the franchise. If the right concept was developed with a truly creative team in place, then a new series (or perhaps a currently running series) would be great. But until Paramount and UPN jettison Berman and Braga, we're just stuck with mediocre (at best) Trek.
Oh my... I don't think I like this idea. I speak for myself when I say I'm soooo not interested in seeing a movie with no famaliar characters. I have no idea with whats going on with TREK these days. It's sad.
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