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Rick Berman Talks Season Four: Xindi Resolution Plus Mini-Arcs Harkening to TOS

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By Steve Krutzler / 13:01, 5 July 2004 / Enterprise

Speaking in the new issue of STAR TREK magazine in the United Kingdom, STAR TREK: ENTERPRISE producer Rick Berman says he and co-creator Brannon Braga along with executive producer Manny Coto are mapping out the new season and how "Zero Hour"'s cliffhanger will be resolved.

"We’ve already mapped out the first six or seven episodes, in a general sense. We’ve got a story beat out for the first episode," he says in excerpts provided to TrekWeb. "The Xindi arc will be resolved within the first three episodes. And when I say the Xindi arc I mean the predicament of where our characters now find themselves."

Berman says although season four won't see the crew on a mission to save the entire human race again, don't expect a return to the quieter tone of seasons one and two.

"I think that after that we’ve got some very high-concept mini-arcs that we’re interested in," he tells the mag. "Just as when we did STAR TREK: FIRST CONTACT, we couldn’t do a movie about Picard and company saving the future from being destroyed, we can’t do another season-long on ENTERPRISE that involves Archer and company trying to save humanity. On the other hand, we don’t feel that we want to go back to the Season One and Season Two concept of ‘we’re out there exploring space,’ period."

The exec alludes to several on-going story arcs that will populate the show's fourth year.

"We’re in the process now of developing smaller arcs �" arcs that will run two, three, maybe four episodes �" which will continue during the course of the season," Berman reveals. "We’ve got a couple of them that I think are going to have some big surprises and things that will hearken back to perhaps THE ORIGINAL SERIES. We’ll bring in some actors, and possibly some characters, that are very familiar to our audience."

You can read the full interview in issue 116 of STAR TREK Magazine, available in the UK July 16th. ENTERPRISE is expected to begin production mid-month.



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By: Cap'n Calhoun (Odo's file, contact) @ 03:37:08 on Jul 08, 2004

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Just as when we did STAR TREK: FIRST CONTACT, we couldn’t do a movie about Picard and company saving the future from being destroyed, we can’t do another season-long on ENTERPRISE that involves Archer and company trying to save humanity.

What type of warped logic is that?

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By: Bardo (Odo's file, contact) @ 09:38:33 on Jul 06, 2004

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"We’ve already mapped out the first six or seven episodes, in a general sense. We’ve got a story beat out for the first episode," he says in excerpts provided to TrekWeb. "The Xindi arc will be resolved within the first three episodes. And when I say the Xindi arc I mean the predicament of where our characters now find themselves."

This just proves how much B&B rely on the WTF roller coaster - they clearly couldn't come up with a proper ending of the Xindi arc last season (though it was staring them in the face) and a viable cliffhanger for next season. So we got alien nazis and Quantam Leap redux.

So next season we have to endure more of the Xindi (been there, done that) and more time drivel manure shoveling to extricate our heroes out of the 20th century? And they are only NOW considering the "predicament of where our characters find themselves"? This shows just how craven last year's cliffhanger was, and how slipshod the resolution will probably be. As Bette Davis said in "All About Eve", "Better put your seat belt on; it's going to be a bumpy ride..."




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By: Meglo (Odo's file, contact) @ 22:40:40 on Jul 05, 2004

Six or seven episodes in a "general sense"? That could mean they wrote some bullet notes on their napkin at Starbucks this morning.

Does Berman talk to his bosses at Paramount like this? If so, it's amazing he hasn't been fired. I mean, some people can BS really well, Berman cannot.

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By: GustavoLeao (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 20:50:25 on Jul 05, 2004

Still not specific on Shatner playing Kirk, but the fact Mr Berman mentioned the original series and no other cast member has been rumoured to be considered or in talks, it does give me some hope.

Gustavo


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"Harken" back to TOS? | Report this post to moderator
By: Nuclearmothman (Odo's file, contact) @ 16:57:24 on Jul 05, 2004 | Edit History (1)

OMG! If any more evidence is needed that Berman is an idiot who doesn't understand Trek, it's this: "On the other hand, we don’t feel that we want to go back to the Season One and Season Two concept of ‘we’re out there exploring space,’ period."

Soooo, "exploring space" isn't "high concept" enough for ya, huh, Ricky? Hm, last time I checked, "exploring space" is what STAR TREK is supposed to be about! You know, "seeking out new life and new civilizations." Remember that, Ricky? "To boldy go where no man has gone before." That ring a bell, Ricky? No? Uh, huh, I thought so, Ricky.

And then there's this gem: "We’ve got a couple of them that I think are going to have some big surprises and things that will hearken back to perhaps THE ORIGINAL SERIES. We’ll bring in some actors, and possibly some characters, that are very familiar to our audience."

"Hearken back to perhaps THE ORIGINAL SERIES"? Isn't ENTERPRISE suppose to be a PREQUEL series? Isn't the the point of a prequel to LEAD UP TO the original? Why "perhaps"? What is the point of ENTERPRISE, then, if it's NOT going to tie into TOS? There should be no "perhaps" about it.

Great Bird of the Galaxy, defend us from this moron!


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By: Scorned (Odo's file, contact) @ 16:22:12 on Jul 05, 2004

Quote:"Rick Berman says he and co-creator Brannon Braga along with executive producer Manny Coto are mapping out the new season and how "Zero Hour"'s cliffhanger will be resolved."

Are they saying that they didn't have an idea of how to get out of W.W.II from all that "mapping out last season"? You mean that this was just something that they threw together at the last minute?? This W.W.II Nazi idea is going to bomb.


Quote:""We’ve already mapped out the first six or seven episodes, in a general sense.

In other words they got nothing. More lies how they supposedly mapped out the entire Xindi arc. I am willing to bet if you approached Berman last July and mentioned the arc ending with Archer ending up in W.W.II they wouldn't of had a clue what you were talking about. More lies.


Quote:"We’ve got a story beat out for the first episode,"

So that means the first episode is going to suck.


Quote:"The Xindi arc will be resolved within the first three episodes. And when I say the Xindi arc I mean the predicament of where our characters now find themselves."

So there is a Xindi connection to the Nazis"? Can you say "Quantum Leap"?


Quote:"Berman says although season four won't see the crew on a mission to save the entire human race again, don't expect a return to the quieter tone of seasons one and two.

You mean the boring ridiculousness of "Stigma and Night in Sickbay"? WHAT NO MORE dog episodes in S4?? Oh come on..Trek fans are just so curious to know how and where Porthos shits on the ship. They could do an entire "arc" on how Porthos gets "ringworm" and Archer has to go across the galaxy trying to find a cure for it.


Quote:""I think that after that we’ve got some very high-concept mini-arcs that we’re interested in," he tells the mag.

High concepts? I doubt it!


Quote:" "Just as when we did STAR TREK: FIRST CONTACT, we couldn’t do a movie about Picard and company saving the future from being destroyed, we can’t do another season-long on ENTERPRISE that involves Archer and company trying to save humanity.

Then why have Archer thrown back into the past then thus turning ENT into Quantum Leap meets Hogans Heroes? He couldn't come up with anything better than that stupid ending?


Quote:"On the other hand, we don’t feel that we want to go back to the Season One and Season Two concept of ‘we’re out there exploring space,’ period."

That just means that ENT is no longer a prequel series. It is now Post-Voy. Heaven forbid we go back to "Seek out new life and new citizications" .... Lets just do "time travel" stories until everyone has diarrhea from them.


Quote:"The exec alludes to several on-going story arcs that will populate the show's fourth year.

They still haven't written anything yet. They will write it as they go along. Just like they did with the boring Xindi arc. More lies about "having it all mapped out".


Quote:""We’re in the process now of developing smaller arcs �" arcs that will run two, three, maybe four episodes �" which will continue during the course of the season," Berman reveals.

You only got 22 episodes. So how many arcs could you possibly get in one season? 4 episodes...5 possible arcs?


Quote:""We’ve got a couple of them that I think are going to have some big surprises and things that will hearken back to perhaps THE ORIGINAL SERIES.

I find that very hard to believe seeing how Berman and Braga have yet to watch an episode of TOS. I think they means they are just going to start ripping off more TOS episodes.


Quote:"We’ll bring in some actors, and possibly some characters, that are very familiar to our audience."

If they don't bring back Shatner as Kirk, they can go fuck themselves. Another wasted seasons and opportunity.


Quote:"You can read the full interview in issue 116 of STAR TREK Magazine, available in the UK July 16th. ENTERPRISE is expected to begin production mid-month.

Don't bother, save your money. It is just filled with more lies.


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By: Deslok 2 (Odo's file, contact) @ 16:17:43 on Jul 05, 2004

Wow, this is the most sensible thing that Rick Berman has said in years. We'll see if this pans out next seasonn though, they've promised things that they weren't able to deliver in the past, I only hope that this time they make good on their promises.

I wonder if they really have it in them to tell good stories. It really isn't enough to just have good ideas, the stories themselves must be crafted with care in order to be a story worthy of being told within the STAR TREK format. So far, they've come closest during season three, but have still fallen significantly short of the mark.

Sadly, Brannon Braga is still apparently involved with ENT. His name is still being mentioned in association with the writing, I don't think that this bodes well for the show, will it last seven seasons? Somebody needs to go to writer's boot camp and brush up on their writing.

At least Rick Berman has come to grips with the fact that for ENT to be relevant, it has to acknowledge that events on ENT must kinda relate to TOS in some way or another. However, Berman used the word "hearkening" and really, ENT must do more than simply hearken to TOS. It must connect to TOS, but not overbearingly so.

I hope that the season to come gives us very little to bitch about. It's heartbreaking to see what has become of STAR TREK sometimes, I hope they find some real resolution this season.

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By: Hbasm (Odo's file, contact) @ 14:29:25 on Jul 05, 2004 | Edit History (1)

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"Just as when we did STAR TREK: FIRST CONTACT, we couldn’t do a movie about Picard and company saving the future from being destroyed ..."

I think there is a typo here. It should read "we couldn't do ANOTHER movie about Picard and company..."

I look forward to season 4 very much and I'm happy we still have at least ONE more season of Trek coming up! Berman doesn't reveal the contents of it yet, but I'm convinced the idea of having more arcs is the right idea. I'm eager to see how the Xindi arc will be resolved, and 3 episodes to resolve the predicament situation sounds about right! So far it all looks good. Lets just hope the audience will tune in. The ENTIRE audience! Okay I'm dreaming.


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