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An Evening With Brannon Braga: Scribe Talks STAR TREK: FIRST CONTACT at Hollywood Screening

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By Steve Krutzler / 04:42, 16 June 2004 / TrekWeb Features

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Dressed in blue jeans and a white button-down, Brannon Braga told fans Tuesday night that the original idea for STAR TREK: FIRST CONTACT was “the Borg and the Bubonic plague” in medieval times. Drones of the roundtable didn’t pan out, however, when “Patrick Stewart didn’t want to wear tights,” Braga joked while introducing the film to fans and movie aficionados gathered at the ArcLight Cinemas in Hollywood to celebrate the eighth STAR TREK movie with a special screening and Q&A session sponsored by Hollywood’s Master Storytellers.

Grossing $92 million domestically, FIRST CONTACT was the most successful of the four TNG films, second only to ST4’s $109 million. FC owns the record for the largest opening weekend take for any STAR TREK film, raking in over $30 million dollars in 1996, and quickly becoming a fan favorite. In fact, having been able to catch the last act of NEMESIS on HBO Monday night, it’s difficult to deny FIRST CONTACT’s place as a great STAR TREK film.

Although co-writer Ronald D. Moore and producer Rick Berman agreed with Braga on putting the Borg front and center in the big screen follow-up to GENERATIONS, that’s about all they knew early on.

“When we started we knew we wanted to do something with the Borg,” he recalled. “We knew the Borg were really, really popular on TNG. We really wanted to incorporate time travel. We were really fortunate that this idea came along to set it in the near future because what’s at stake in the movie really is STAR TREK. If the Vulcans don’t land, the universe the audience has come to know and love will not exist. And then the third element to the film to come along was the idea of the great Zephram Cochran, who I think was depicted in TOS. We thought it would be interesting to have this crew meet Zephram Cochran, but he is not anything like anybody thinks--he’s a drunk. Kind of the antithesis of Gene Roddenberry’s ideals, and show how he got to be by the end of the film thanks in part to these heroes.”

At the heart of the success of FIRST CONTACT was its ability to connect with general audiences, Braga says, people who weren’t necessarily familiar with the entire STAR TREK mythos.

“Just to set it in a post-apocalyptic future was sort of more relatable to a general audience and the people who weren’t familiar with STAR TREK could appreciate what STAR TREK was all about,” Braga explained. “We created this character of Lily, played by Alfre Woodard, who knew nothing about STAR TREK because she knows nothing of the future. So this was a character to sort of introduce to the audience what STAR TREK was all about, and the philosophy of STAR TREK and what it means.”

Contemplating anecdotes to share with the audience, Braga admitted in his best deadpan, “I’ve got none,” to an uproarious crowd. “The only one...” he said, reaching for a tidbit. “The movie has a nice sweep to it and it feels like an epic Borg battle. But, in fact, creating an individual drone was very expensive. And we could only afford eight Borg, So really though it looks like there are a lot of Borg running around, there are only eight dudes! The rest are dummies that our makeup artist Michael Westmore created. We used that template for years to come on VOYAGER where we really expanded on the Borg mythos. It’s one of the reasons people like to watch this movie--we exploited the Borg ad nauseum years later, but they never looked better than they looked here.”

Getting them to look that way wasn’t easy, moderator Dennis Michael Revealed. Speaking of director Jonathan Frakes’s challenges during the shoot, he explained how Frakes was concerned with getting the immobile drones to register some movement in the frame.

“My feeling was if you get caught by the Borg you deserved to be caught because they’re like the Mummy,” Braga joked. “They don’t have weapons; they just sort of swing their arms at you, how threatening can they be? But to [Jonathan’s] credit he did a great job with them.”

Alice Krige added a lot of vivaciousness to the previously steely Collective. Braga says the studio really wanted a “voice” for the villains of the piece, and the ringing cacophony of the drones speaking at once--good enough for television--wasn’t going to cut it.

“We had the Borg for a while and I remember Jonathan Dolgen, chairman of Viacom at the time, said we ‘need a voice for the Borg.’ ‘These Borg are just automatons, and that worked for the series.’ ‘No, this is a movie, you need something [more].’,” he recounted. “So we came up with the idea of the Borg Queen, which really brought a lot to the movie--then the Data becoming more human arc was born.”

“I really liked [Krige] from the movie GHOST STORY because she had a creepy sexiness, which I thought was perfect for the Borg Queen, who was sort of a kinky, weird lady,” Braga continued. “We thought the Borg Queen should be a sensual character, tantalizing Data with the prospect of flesh. One of my favorite moments in the film is that little patch of skin that she blows on--the blow job scene [laughter]--and the little goosebumps that came up, I thought that was really cool. There has always been an element of sensuality to some degree in ST, like the moment in the film when Data says he’s fully functional, that was in the first season of TNG. There’s always a playful sensuality.”

The inspiration for the torso-separated Queen came from an unlikely place.

“There was this movie called CAPTAIN EO at Disneyland, and that was still running around the time of this movie, and Angelica Houston played this scary lady that came down on cables from the ceiling. We liked that,” he says with an eerie fascination. “And I remember discussing that that was a cool image for the Borg Queen, and we did a version of it.”

Michael went so far as to suggest that Krige’s turn as the Queen makes FIRST CONTACT the “kinkiest” of all the STAR TREK movies. Braga quickly retorted, “Well yes, but I thought in INSURRECTION when Data and the boy come out of the haystack, that was pretty sexy!”

The opportunity to see the film on the big screen is rare and FIRST CONTACT plays great to the audience. Just about all the funny lines get a collective laugh and it’s amazing just how many memorable scenes the film contains. From Counselor Troi’s drunken haze to Cochran’s antiheroic ramblings, Dixon Hill, and the EMH and Barclay’s cameos, FIRST CONTACT has an engaging story and plenty of meat to keep the eyes and mind happy. As successful as Marina Sirtis’ bar hijinks play out, Braga revealed he thought the scene should’ve been cut.

“It’s interesting and I only speak for myself, but I didn’t like that scene, I thought it should’ve been cut,” he says. “The reason is that the film is bouncing along, Data and Picard have their guns and they’re ready to ‘go fight the Borg,’ and then you have this sort of long scene, and I didn’t really think it was very funny.” He turns to the audience, “But did you guys like that scene?” [cue applause] “That’s good to hear, but I obviously didn’t win that battle.”

After so many episodes and so many movies, Braga told the audience it’s hard to come up with completely original stories. Even still, he said Gene Roddenberry’s universe and its underlying rules foster good storytelling.

“This is just my opinion but I think constrictions are good when you’re trying to write drama,” he said. “You want parameters and I personally love Gene’s universe and I don’t want to write for a show where people are at each other’s throats, it’s more interesting to do it metaphorically through the aliens that they meet and so forth. Although we did find times to have the characters in conflict, for instance here with Picard and Worf.”

The franchise itself keeps on trekking, with a fourth season of STAR TREK: ENTERPRISE on the way and a new feature project--with which Brannon says he has no involvement--in the very early developmental stages.

“Will it take a rest? Frankly I think it probably should at some point. I just don’t know,” he offered as an assessment of the overall health of the franchise. He does know UPN’s decision to move ENTERPRISE to a new night could be good news for the series. “I think it’s good. Right now we’re up against AMERICAN IDOL for god sakes! You might as well not air the episodes! Now we’re on Friday nights and I think people will seek it out. We had a great season. In part due to a writer named Manny Coto, who’s right there in the audience,” as Braga pointed him out. “He wrote some great shows. We’re very happy to have been picked up.”

Some fans want to know whether ‘Q’, at the top of his game in Braga and Moore’s Hugo Award-winning TNG finale “All Good Things...,” will pop up in the prequel.

“We always talk about it. Q kind of got de-fanged over the years. He was so great at the end of the finale of TNG and then he came back on DS9 and VOY and he was fairly soft. So if we bring Q back we want to bring him back with an edge to him.”

That episode, regarded by many fans as one of the greatest TREK episodes ever, remains a high point in Braga’s career.

“Ron Moore and myself wrote for days while we were writing GENERATIONS�"and we joke [now] that ‘All Good Things...’ should’ve been the movie because it would’ve made a better movie. But it was really a blur and we were worried that we did not do that great series justice, but it really came out so well. The fan response over the years has been so enthusiastic and embracing that I think overall that has been one of the great moments.”

Another is appearing briefly in FIRST CONTACT’s Holodeck sequence.

“For a millisecond I’m actually in the far right side of the frame, which is a real drag because on cable they don’t run the letterbox so I’m not in it at all!”

Paramount is expected to release a new DVD of STAR TREK: FIRST CONTACT next year. The next collector's edition on the way is STAR TREK: GENERATIONS, dropping September 7th.

Check out ROBOCOP Tuesday, June 29th as the Hollywood's Master Storytellers summer series continues with actor Peter Weller at the ArcLight in Hollywood.



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By: Deslok 2 (Odo's file, contact) @ 00:44:32 on Jun 17, 2004

I feel that this Q+A with Brannon is a sign that better things are coming for ENT and STAR TREK. Hey, the guy is moving on to greener pastures, he needs the best public image he can get since he has been crucified on STAR TREK related websites that don't censor content for a very long time now.

Braga has done good and bad for the STAR TREK franchise, but his biggest crime (along with Rick Berman) was to stay too long. These guys ceased to be creative or vital about six or seven years ago, if not longer. I think they're trapped in an idea of what they "think" science fiction, particularly STAR TREK is all about. I have read fanfic written by kids aged 10 to 17 that were nearly flawless, kept canon and continuity intact and were not only readable but enjoyable and fun. I hope some of those kids are pursuing careers as sci-fi writers today.

I've never understood people who defend Braga with only his past achievements. I think the question that must be asked is "What has B done for US lately? The answer is "not much". A ruined version of what could have been an absolutely brilliant and potentially the best TREK series, barring none. Braga is a moderately talented hack with an incredible amount of good luck, perhaps he'll have better luck with his next project (perhaps a writing credit on Mission Impossible 3?). To hear him talk about his "work" is laughable. Braga is full of shit, top to bottom. I know feature film producers, and it's true that there are always forces within the studio that work against one's "creative" directions and all, but I wonder if Braga has EVER fought for something he believed in? The answer is... "how could he be expected to, he has no vision for STAR TREK. All he does is throw a bunch of spaghetti at the wall and waits to see what sticks. If Brannon Braga is remembered for anything, it won't be the good things that he has done for STAR TREK it will be the bad, the negative and the abysmal literary rabbit pellets he sold the studio, representing them to be magic beans that would grow a beanstalk. The beanstalk never grew, and now it's time for new blood at the house that STAR TREK built.

Brannon Braga... don't let the door hit ya on the way out! For those who adore Brannon Braga, just log onto brannonbraga.com where there is a continuous luv-fest all the time. Unrealistic, yes, but a luv-fest all the same.

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Frogs with dirty little lips

Dirty little warts on their finger-tips

Dirty 'n green

Tiny 'n mean

Floppin' around

By the edge of the stream



-FZ


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By: Nitride (Odo's file, contact) @ 15:07:15 on Jun 16, 2004 | Edit History (1)

I really didn't like All Good Things. It meandered all over the place with these "new" endpoints for all the characters that kinda sorta gave us an answer to what *may* happen down the road.

Of course, the series was not going away forever, it was merely transforming into a film franchise. The future story lines and "Warp 13" were so out of place it was comical. But the fans explain it away so that it makes some kind of sense (because the writers certainly didn't make anything that makes sense).

So how does a medical doctor become the captain of a starship anyway? Night school? Affirmative Action? Warp 13 and the big bubble starship that looks like some leftover prop from TOS! Bwahahahaha!

The best tv series-to-movie transition was with The X-Files. We ended the season with an open story arc, got a movie that continued right where we left of (largely) in the arc, filled in a LOT of details and so on, and we got back to the series picking up right where the movie left off. Brilliant!

The first TNG movie was oddly paced; Enterprise B with an inept Captain (how did he get to be Captain if he can't handle a non-combat crisis?), Guinan somehow central to the whole movie as nothing more than a anthropomorphic transporter to let the story jump from one place to another with seeming continuity.

First Contact is right next to Star Trek II in my list of top movies. At least it was interesting to watch, unlike Insurrection or Nemesis and especially All Good Things.

Picard coming unglued as he sought revenge against the Borg was awesome (Captain Ahab of the Future), oh yeah and he was fighting to preserve the future and stuff (Time Travel as plot-crutch, now the entire basis of the fourth Star Trek series). You can tell when writers aren't trying very hard when time travel is introduced to solve whatever problem the characters/story has in it.

All other Star Trek TNG movies never reached the level of First Contact because they were filled with wishy-washy limp-wristed story lines. Nemesis wouldn't even have happened if Enterprise had waited a week or so based on the rapid deterioration of Picard's clone.


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Adjusted for Inflation? | Report this post to moderator
By: Postdoc (Odo's file, contact) @ 14:24:49 on Jun 16, 2004

Not that it matters about the quality of the movie, but how does an inflation adjustment bring STIV "neck and neck" with STFC. The Voyage Home was released in 1986, a full decade before First Contact, so inflation would raise it higher over First Contact, wouldn't it?
As to STFC, it's not bad, the Borg are an excellent villain. Patrick Stewart's acting is superb, especially in the scene in Ten Forward with Lily. But the alteration of Zefrem Cochrane and the general tone of the show is not so great. STTNG was never an straight out action show, neither was the original series, so sustained corridor phaser battles never did it for me, anyway. As an action sci-fi movie though, FC is pretty good. The TNG movies, with the exception of Insurrection, never really captured the New Age feel of the TV show. Just my penny and a half.


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RE: Adjusted for Inflation? by Steve Krutzler @ 14:34:02 on Jun 16

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By: timmer33 (Odo's file, contact) @ 13:28:29 on Jun 16, 2004

When Nemesis came out you raved about it, and in fact you stated here multiple times how much better it was than First Contact. Now to read your article above it seems like you 've done a 180!

Here's a quote:

"In fact, having been able to catch the last act of NEMESIS on HBO Monday night, it’s difficult to deny FIRST CONTACT’s place as a great STAR TREK film"

You criticized FC as being amateurish and only television quality! You took some of us to task here for saying we didn't like NEM, we hated the music, etc.

Now that you've actually re-viewed FC, I hope you can see everything that NEM promised but could not deliver, right from story, directing, music, script, etc.

You really weren't too objective about NEM when it was released and I hope you are seeing things in a different light after your FC viewing.


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By: Scorned (Odo's file, contact) @ 11:47:56 on Jun 16, 2004


Just when you thought the summer was going to really have nothing new posted we get this idiot and this interview. My God where to begin....

Quote:"And then the third element to the film to come along was the idea of the great Zephram Cochran, who I think was depicted in TOS."

"I think"??? Had Braga even bothered to watch TOS he would of known that they did. There was an entire episode about him. It is clear that they get someone who has watched TOS to give them an outline. Just like Braga thinks the Vulcans and Androians are enemies because he saw a clip of a "blue guy stab Kirk". Braga, his stupidity never seems to end!!!


Quote:"We thought it would be interesting to have this crew meet Zephram Cochran, but he is not anything like anybody thinks--he’s a drunk.

A drunk? Well they must of been when they came up with that dumb idea because in TOS he was not depicted as a drunk. Continuity baby!!!! Go look it up!


Quote:"So this was a character to sort of introduce to the audience what STAR TREK was all about, and the philosophy of STAR TREK and what it means.”

They should of asked her what Star Trek was about because these 2 jackasses don't. Its a case of the blind leading the blind.


Quote:"We used that template for years to come on VOYAGER where we really expanded on the Borg mythos

No the word is "overused" character which people got sick of seeing week after week. Braga was involved in VOY and hence why it sucked so muched. When in doubt do a "Borg or time travel" story to help sagging ratings and shitty direction.


Quote:"Braga says the studio really wanted a “voice” for the villains of the piece, and the ringing cacophony of the drones speaking at once--good enough for television--wasn’t going to cut it.

Why not? By making the "queen" character you took a great idea and turned the borg into "bees". You were told the Borg are all "ONE". There is NO leader. Then FC comes around and they give you a "queen" because some dummy in the studio thought that they knew what fans wanted etc. More of this ridiculous marketing/ so called "research" crap from Paramount. FC took the borg idea and just about ruined it.


Quote:"So we came up with the idea of the Borg Queen, which really brought a lot to the movie--then the Data becoming more human arc was born.”

Yes it brought in a sense of changing the Borg idea again to a point which now contradicted the original premise. NO continuity strikes again with Braga the idiot!


Quote:"“I really liked [Krige] from the movie GHOST STORY because she had a creepy sexiness, which I thought was perfect for the Borg Queen, who was sort of a kinky, weird lady,” Braga continued. “We thought the Borg Queen should be a sensual character, tantalizing Data with the prospect of flesh. One of my favorite moments in the film is that little patch of skin that she blows on--the blow job scene [laughter]--and the little goosebumps that came up, I thought that was really cool. There has always been an element of sensuality to some degree in ST, like the moment in the film when Data says he’s fully functional, that was in the first season of TNG. There’s always a playful sensuality.”

This only proves that Braga needs to get a girlfriend and get laid! Have the "SaveEnterprise.com" people start a "Braga_needs_a_hooker_fund".


Quote:" Michael went so far as to suggest that Krige’s turn as the Queen makes FIRST CONTACT the “kinkiest” of all the STAR TREK movies.

Ridiculous!


Quote:"“Well yes, but I thought in INSURRECTION when Data and the boy come out of the haystack, that was pretty sexy!”

Ridiculous! What a stupid thing to say unless you are a pedophile. I think Braga is a closet homosexual.


Quote:" Braga told the audience it’s hard to come up with completely original stories

He has been out of any ideas for years now. It is time to move on. He thinks he is a writer yet he does no other writing. This so called writer never went out and did other things. Things that help expand a writers mind and make him a better writter. It is good to see that the ego has been bruised and he knows it.


Quote:"Even still, he said Gene Roddenberry’s universe and its underlying rules foster good storytelling.

Please, he never seen TOS and the continuity mistakes are so sloppy. Now he is just mentioning "Gene" in order to get a sound bit from the crowd. How pathetic!


Quote:"“This is just my opinion but I think constrictions are good when you’re trying to write drama,” he said. “You want parameters and I personally love Gene’s universe

WHAT the hell is he talking about? Parameters which he doesn't follow. The mistakes and rehashed stories are a joke and an embarassment to him. How can he love "Gene's universe" when he pisses on the TOS so much. Maybe someone can buy a set of the TOS DVD box sets and give it to him and show him the TRUE foundation of Trek.


Quote:"and I don’t want to write for a show where people are at each other’s throats, it’s more interesting to do it metaphorically through the aliens that they meet and so forth. Although we did find times to have the characters in conflict, for instance here with Picard and Worf.”

What show is he talking about? At each others throats? All the characters I guess have to "hold hands and sing songs". In the early DS9 days, the characters were not "buddy, buddy" and look how good DS9 turned out. Braga sit down and shut up!


Quote:"We had a great season. In part due to a writer named Manny Coto, who’s right there in the audience,” as Braga pointed him out. “He wrote some great shows. We’re very happy to have been picked up.”

No it was in part that they B&B did almost NO writing for it. A season which was dedicated to that boring Xindi arc which they "quickly ended" in order to give us the Nazis. HOW F'ING SAD is this!


Quote:"“We always talk about it. Q kind of got de-fanged over the years. He was so great at the end of the finale of TNG and then he came back on DS9 and VOY and he was fairly soft. So if we bring Q back we want to bring him back with an edge to him.”

Who's fault is that making Q defanged? The WRITERS! THAT IS Braga!! Overing using the character didn't help either! Does this guy think that he does no wrong?


Quote:"“Ron Moore and myself wrote for days while we were writing GENERATIONS�"and we joke [now] that ‘All Good Things...’ should’ve been the movie because it would’ve made a better movie.

Moore and Braga must be idiots! If All Good Things was the movie instead of Generations. It would of TANKED. I would NOT of paided 10 bucks to watch 2 hrs of the "chicken and the egg" mentality of All Good Things.

Maybe they should of done that instead that way they wouldn't of killed Kirk in such a pathetic way!


Quote:"“For a millisecond I’m actually in the far right side of the frame, which is a real drag because on cable they don’t run the letterbox so I’m not in it at all!”

Good! Who the hell wants to see his sorry ass? Maybe except cleaning out your desk at the Paramount lot.



I find this entire interview to be nothing more than "fluff". It has all the "nice" questions and answers". Instead of doing the "typical nice easy" questions. How about having Braga under the microscope? Put him through the ringer and give him the real tough questions. Point out the mistakes and overall decline of Trek due to his poor writing. But no, we get a nice little "Oprah" piece.





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By: Ensign Ro-Your-Boat (Odo's file, contact) @ 11:39:29 on Jun 16, 2004 | Edit History (1)

I like how Brannon doesn't take himself or his work so damn seriously. Refreshing, coming from a film-maker, most of whom act as if their film(s) 'changed the world'.

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By: spacebeluga (Odo's file, contact) @ 11:01:04 on Jun 16, 2004

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Just about all the funny lines get a collective laugh and it’s amazing just how many memorable scenes the film contains. From Counselor Troi’s drunken haze to Cochran’s antiheroic ramblings, Dixon Hill, and the EMH and Barclary’s cameos, FIRST CONTACT has an engaging story and plenty of meat to keep the eyes and mind happy.

So, Steve, are you at last beginning to like First Contact?

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And then the third element to the film to come along was the idea of the great Zephram Cochran, who I think was depicted in TOS.

Um, you think? It's kind of interesting that I probably know more about Star Trek than Brannon Braga does.

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“Just to set it in a post-apocalyptic future was sort of more relatable to a general audience and the people who weren’t familiar with STAR TREK could appreciate what STAR TREK was all about,” Braga explained. “We created this character of Lily, played by Alfre Woodard, who knew nothing about STAR TREK because she knows nothing of the future. So this was a character to sort of introduce to the audience what STAR TREK was all about, and the philosophy of STAR TREK and what it means.”

Wow...he said something smart...I'm stunned...

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"Will it take a rest? Frankly I think it probably should at some point. I just don’t know,” he offered as an assessment of the overall health of the franchise."

It would be nice if one of the Executive Producers of Enterprise actually knew where Star Trek was headed, but whatever...

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“We always talk about it. Q kind of got de-fanged over the years. He was so great at the end of the finale of TNG and then he came back on DS9 and VOY and he was fairly soft. So if we bring Q back we want to bring him back with an edge to him.”

Didn't Braga have a heavy influence on Voyager, especially by the time they started doing Q episodes? Correct me if I'm wrong though.

So for the most part, Braga didn't make a fool out of himself! I'm impressed.

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Kirk: We're nothing like you. We're a democratic body.



Kor: Come now Captain, I'm not referring to minor ideological differences. I mean that we are similar as a species. Here we are on a planet of sheep, two tigers, predators, hunters... killers. And it is precisely that which makes us great. And there is a universe to be taken.



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RE: OK, this interview wasn't so bad... by Jadzia-Dax @ 11:50:20 on Jun 16
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By: Scorpius (Odo's file, contact) @ 07:21:32 on Jun 16, 2004

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Braga quickly retorted, “Well yes, but I thought in INSURRECTION when Data and the boy come out of the haystack, that was pretty sexy!”

Funny, but VERY worrying!

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By: Jadzia-Dax (Odo's file, contact) @ 06:41:01 on Jun 16, 2004

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I don't even know where to begin.

From above:

“ We were really fortunate that this idea came along to set it in the near future because what’s at stake in the movie really is STAR TREK. If the Vulcans don’t land, the universe the audience has come to know and love will not exist."

And from that point forward, everything that they have done has been geared towards eliminating ALL that Star Trek has stood for, as a coda to GEN that got the ball rolling in that destructive direction.

"And then the third element to the film to come along was the idea of the great Zephram Cochran, who I think was depicted in TOS."

Who you "think was depicted"???

What is amazing is that this lazy ass won't even take 51 minutes of his time to WATCH TOS "Metamorphosis". It boggles the mind. Image

"We thought it would be interesting to have this crew meet Zephram Cochran, but he is not anything like anybody thinks--he’s a drunk. Kind of the antithesis of Gene Roddenberry’s ideals,"

Note what he says - "Kind of the antithesis of Gene Roddenberry's ideals".

Here is Zefram Cochran from TOS "Metamorphosis":

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"and show how he got to be by the end of the film thanks in part to these heroes.”

This is total bullshit.

In TOS "Metamorphosis", written by Gene Coon, when you have dialog like this:

Kirk: "I've got a ship up there, responsibility for four lives here... One of them dying because of me."

McCoy: "It isn't your fault."

Kirk: "I'm in command, Bones.It makes it my fault. How do you fight a thing like that?"

McCoy: "Maybe you're a soldier so often that you forget you're also trained to be a diplomat. Why not try a carrot instead of a stick?"


The above summarizes a powerful connection that the audience can make with the dilemma that Kirk is in because he beweeps his outcast state to his friend. This is something that is LACKING from the Braga Universee and the Braga Characters, who are mere puppets strutting and fretting their hour on the stage.

I mean, THAT TOS episode fully defines HOW the Universal Translator works. But more than that, it is a story about love and sacrifice.

All I can say is, based on what I just read above, it's time for him to go. He doesn't give a shit. He just doesn't get it and he never will.

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"I think the show talked to people through the characters. They're stories that speak to the heart. They talk about love, they talk about friendship, they talk about loyalty, they talk about patriotism, exploration, curiosity, reaching out... And I think all those things still touch people. Even when you look at a 30-year old show, it still has something to say." - D.C. Fontana, Sci Fi Channel Special Edition TOS 1998


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Outer Space. The last frontier.


These are the trips of the Star Trek Enterprise.


Its 5-year plan...


Calls for us to explore strange new worlds. To seek out new life and new civilizations.


To boldly fly where no man has gone in space.




Patrick Stewart on SNL 2/5/94


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