Alternate WNMHGB | Report this post to moderator
By: Tom (Odo's file, contact) @ 08:17:26 on Jun 01, 2004

I've actually had a copy of this version purchased at a Trek convention from years back (along with the unseen Lost in Space pilot which eventually made it to DVD).

Some of alternate theme music from WNMHGB is on the GNP/Crescendo soundtrack for "The Cage/WNMHGB". If you have the album or CD (or do a google search for it), you can give it a listen.

Tom...

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Not THAT much different... | Report this post to moderator
By: Jadzia-Dax (Odo's file, contact) @ 07:49:29 on Jun 01, 2004

I have a 1988 recording of this from a local independent station along with my Sci Fi Channel Special Edition, and the main difference with the segments that the Brazillian website showed, save for the extended scene during the Red Alert, where Gary Lockwood is shown dallying through the corridors, is the opening credits without what is now the familiar monologue, the theme music (which was dropped after being used in the original pilot "The Cage", and picked up again later), the end credits, and some of the titling (which was used in "The Cage"). It looks like they were trying to distinguish this enough from the original pilot so that it wouldn't be rejected out of hand again. The same costumes as "The Cage" were used however.

And there may be some more footage lost somewhere (maybe on a blooper reel) because on the SE version, Sally Kellerman says in an interview snippet:

"Gary Lockwood and I were like the Veloz and Yolanda of television. And he and I were the guest stars on this second pilot. So there we are, walking around a man-made lake, we're bumping into trees, we're slipping into the water, and no one is saying 'cut' and I'm getting... starting to get just the small amount of the giggles. And now he reaches for the perforated peach and he's gonna rip it apart like this great god that he was... and hand me a piece. And I took it like.. riippppp and he couldn't get it apart and... riiiipppp! And still nobody saying 'cut'. We had to wear lenses. We wore silver lenses in our eyes. And I had never worn glasses and and Gary hadn't and he couldn't stand it for one second. He'd have them in for one second and 'You get these lenses out of my eyes', you know, this big screaming. I feel that I'm responsible for Star Trek's success, because I was the guest star on the pilot. Hey, I never thought of that. Gee... maybe it really was me."

And certainly that scene of them wandering through the "eden" that Mitchell had created, was relatively brief.

One thing to note is what Shatner says as commentary in part:

"And lastly the women in this episode, all wear pants. That was going to change. Star Trek, to the appreciation of all the men on the set, in fact all around the world, would boast the shortest skirts on women, of any regular series on television."

;-)

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Outer Space. The last frontier.


These are the trips of the Star Trek Enterprise.


Its 5-year plan...


Calls for us to explore strange new worlds. To seek out new life and new civilizations.


To boldly fly where no man has gone in space.




Patrick Stewart on SNL 2/5/94

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75 Minutes? | Report this post to moderator
By: Russ the Trek Guy (Odo's file, contact) @ 12:37:35 on May 31, 2004

I think I remember reading somewhere that the 2nd pilot was originally 75 minutes long. Could it be that they edited down/excised 15 minutes from this alternate pilot into the 60 minute episode that we all know?

Wouldn't it be great if Paramount resurrected this alternate pilot and released it as a special/extra on the DVD for the new TOS seasons?

Just some thoughts.

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Help! | Report this post to moderator
By: spacebeluga (Odo's file, contact) @ 00:02:59 on May 31, 2004

Only the sound is working, and I've tried it with Quicktime, Windows Media player, and realone. Anyone know what to do? Thanks. :-)

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Very cool. | Report this post to moderator
By: Previously Unseen Alien (Odo's file, contact) @ 18:30:39 on May 30, 2004

I love the sequence with Gary Lockwood stutting in the corridor.

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I may have this | Report this post to moderator
By: John (Odo's file, contact) @ 14:44:10 on May 30, 2004

I have a video put out some years ago (late 80's) that has a different version of this episode on it, I don't recall specifics but it is split into four acts as described. I'll take another look when I get time. It's on a compilation tape with bloopers and interview stuff, and has the commercial with Doohan and Shatner where Bill's head gets beamed on backwards or something.

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credit where credit is due | Report this post to moderator
By: dx31701 (Odo's file, contact) @ 07:54:57 on May 30, 2004

Y'know, you might want to credit Allan Asherman's Star Trek Compendium for most of your information here - for several paragraphs you almost precisely quote his information about the alternate version of Pilot 2, with just a few words changed here and there.

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WNMHGB Esoterica | Report this post to moderator
By: Yorik (Odo's file, contact) @ 04:13:00 on May 30, 2004

Some related esoterica:

In the days before VHS and DVD, there used to be regular Star Trek Marathons (5 episodes for 5 dollars) held in an auditorium at ANZAC House in Sydney. This version of WNMHGB was the one that screened whenever that episode was on the schedule.

The music of this episode is a variation of the alternate theme, in the same way that the music that accompanies much of City on the Edge is a variation on the song Goodnight Sweetheart. It was weird, then, hearing the replacement song used in the VHS copies of City during the copyright dispute )resolved for the DVDs).

There was another episode that played at ANZAC House which included US TV commerials in the print (one had Buddy Hackett as a potato chip loving psychiatrist).

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Yea! | Report this post to moderator
By: Dukat (Odo's file, contact) @ 02:35:41 on May 30, 2004

I saw this alternate footage for Where No Man at a convention in the basement of the Memphis Central library about 20 years ago. I had always hoped of seeing it on a DVD, but I can make that DVD myself now!

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Wow... I've never even heard of this... | Report this post to moderator
By: Cap'n Calhoun (Odo's file, contact) @ 01:07:35 on May 30, 2004

...and I wrote my term paper on Gene Roddenberry!

Of course, I guess a few seconds here and there are routinely cut from each episode, so this shouldn't be a huge surprise. Then again, I had never heard of the alternate end music either...

Any idea how these guys got ahold of this footage? Babelfish isn't giving me quite the informative translation I had hoped for.

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Holy Crap! | Report this post to moderator
By: Jean-Luc (Odo's file, contact) @ 00:40:34 on May 30, 2004

Trek never ceases to amaze me!!

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