Oh man not more prequel stuff, this guy doesn't have an original idea in his head. He's already doing Enterprise, now he wants to screw-up TOS stuff.
Personally I think fan film stuff like New Voyages or Exeter (NV seems to be better IMHO)do the job of TOS expansion quite well. Berman probably saw that New Voyages has something like 4 million downloads and realized what the fans like seeing (when it's done well)
NV is at www.5yearmission.com and Exeter is at www.starshipexeter.com
The idea of a prequel is not bad in and of itself, it's all in how it's handled. And I'm not even opposed to the idea of a Starfleet Academy movie with the TOS characters recast. (Harrison Ford is still Indiana Jones, but four other actors have also played the part too.) But just in seeing how badly Berman and Braga have trashed Trek history with "Enterprise" is enough to give me pause and worry about this possible prequel.
If this is more than just a rumour, what if the other two producers are outsiders brought in to "fix" the franchise? This of course happened after TMP when Bennett was brought in to replace Roddenberry. Roddenberry could not be officially excluded for legal and fan support reasons, but he was relegated to a role in which he had no real influence. Perhaps something similar is happening here... Berman may have some contractual right to be part of any new ST production, but if so they could probably give him a token title and then ignore him.
I'm not opposed in principle to a prequel if it is handled well. "The Lost Era" novel series demonstrates how much potential a prequel concept can have if handled properly. I wouldn't want to see any established characters recast with younger actors though.
i personaly dont know WHO would want 2 watch ANOTHER prequal about startrek! i mean u have Enterprise for god sake! and thats the latest one released so WHY make ANOTHER prequal straight after it!?
i would MUCH prefer 2 see something more in the future, like what happened 2 voyager after it got home... maybe another TNG series? or even a whole new series about captain riker of the Titan! now THAT would be one 2 watch!
This is the same Dreamwatch magazine that said Star Trek 9 was Data vs Lore movie and would be like the wrath of khan.
Just because a magazine says so; doesn't make it true.
My reaction: bollocks!
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I was just thinking, how nice it would be if they actually produced some decent sci-fi...
But knowing B&B, it'll probably be just be the same old regurgitated pablum.
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Be vewy, vewy quiet. I'm hunting Womuwans.
April Fool's Day was on April 1st.
Eh? It's not a joke?
WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT'S NOT A JOKE?!?!!
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Yoda of Borg are we. Futile is resistance. Assimilate you, we will.
This is ridiculous. NEMESIS flopped. ENTERPRISE flopped. Entertainment critics are saying they're over Star Trek. OVER Star Trek. So by all means, lets start work on ANOTHER movie. Give it a REST! I never thought I'd see the day when I'd keep saying that, but GIVE STAR TREK A REST!! Please, Paramount, it may only be another line in the ol' ledger book for you guys, but for thous—MILLIONS of other people it's something we unabashedly love. WE'VE made it the most profitable franchise in history, not YOU. And you're taking our loyalty for granted. You are killing something I've had in my life since I was born! WHY? Why not wait twice the amount of time you normally would, build up an appetite in the mainstream and the fan base, and put the budgets you would have spread out over two—or three films TOGETHER and make one GREAT one?! Crap + crap just equals twice as much crap! Plus, Berman, if he MUST be involved, could obviously use the extra time to get it right.
I though we were finnaly rid of these idiots, instead they have controll over more of Trek's future.
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...to see real strafleet command for a change...
but I'm sure they'll find a way to make it total CRAP!!!
I still don't understand why are they so afraid of the FUTURE? someone please explain it to me.
...will be much obliged...
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"That is the exploration that awaits you: Not mapping the stars and studying nebulae, but charting the unknown possiblities of existence." - Q, All Good Things...
Quote:""I am involved in the very early stages of what could be the next STAR TREK movie," reveals Berman, in an excerpt provided by Dreamwatch. "It's something I will be producing with two other producers.""
WHY!?!?!?! WHY is this idiot doing another movie? WHY is he involved? There is NO way I am going to see another Berman Trek FLOP! I strongly suggest others to boycott this flop now and save yourself $12 bucks and 2 hrs of your life.
A prequel movie???? WHO THE HELL wants to see that? ANSWER: NO ONE! No one cares about the "prequel series" Why the hell would they waste their time on a prequel movie? Is this going to be a Kirk movie? Another way for Berman to fuck over the Kirk character? HOW much longer can Paramount go on making BONEHEAD decisions after BONEHEAD decisions before they realize that they have screwed Star Trek over so badly that it is beyond dead? How much more "Star Wars prequel bandwagon" are they going to do?
WHY is he producing another Trek move? Paramount must be filled with morons. They have yet to learn the lesson of the "Berman touch of death" when it comes to anything Trek.
Another point I would like to make is this. WHY THE HELL IS RICK BERMAN STILL WORKING ON TREK? What happened with that nice rumor of him getting fired after the March sweeps? What kind of blackmail pictures does Berman have over his bosses where they can't fire this asshole?
Quote:"On the television front, while the future of their first series remains in limbo, Berman confirms that he is developing a non-STAR TREK sci-fi series with partner Brannon Braga."
The series is in limbo YET they have the time to develop another show? Well this just goes to show you that the idiots of Trek don't give a shit about Trek and have both "moved on".
Fire these two idiots!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's so simple: Berman and Braga are being allowed to produce another sci-fi show as a replacement for ENT.
ENT will probably get renewed for another season, it's ratings will continue to falter, and this backup show will be ready to go as a mid-season replacement, or a new-season replacement.
Mark my words. UPN is hedging it's bets.
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So Berman spends at least a decade bleeding off audience, creativity and profitability and gets a new show? Most fans didn't want a prequel film a decade ago when it was first picthed and that's what they may get? Berman and Braga have spent ten years showing that they have no clue what makes a sci-fi show work and the show they're getting is sci-fi?
Go Paramount.
Maybe the problem is deeper than Berman - maybe folks like Sherry Lansing or some other studio execs need to be canned and replaced with someone who won't keep proven failures on payroll just because they're friends of the family (which has been said of Lansing and Berman).
I wish someone would tell B&B that science fiction is about the FUTURE!
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"If you want peace, you have to prepare for war."-The Punisher
Should I be delighted or really worried? I am shocked so far! A NON-Star Trek sci-fi series? Now I can't sleep tonight. What's the purpose of doing this? Is Star Trek going to be a chapter from the past? Oh my stomach hurts...
Personally, if B&B were to take a back seat for a fourth season I think it could be great. Imagine how limited DS9 would have been if Berman had meddled with it the way he did Voyager. Ira Behr has already stated that Berman didn't want the Dominion War to last more than a few episodes. Because he was engrossed with Voyager Behr did whatever he wanted and brought us the best years any Trek series ever had, in my opinion. If Enterprise gets a fourth season and B&B were out of the loop, I think it would have a better chance at revitalizing the show and the franchise and show the powers the be what a pair of idiots these two are, in my opinion.
Regards,
Brad
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Berman confirms for the first time that he is now developing a STAR TREK feature film project: "I am involved in the very early stages of what could be the next STAR TREK movie,"
That alone is enough to convince me that this film, like the 4 before it, will be a complete waste of time.
"Earth to Rick Berman: you don't know shit about movie production!"
maybe...
Sulu/Excelsior ?!?
Well, this sure is a surprise.
After the reaction to Nemesis, I really thought the whole movie franchise was dead. I'll have to go back and look at that AICN rumor. Unless the story really did mean Starfleet Academy? Perhaps Picard's Academy days?
Though Steve if I may suggest, I'd point out in the story headline that that series will be a NON-Trek series. I was doing a double take when I saw that.
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Coincidentially, former TREK producer Harve Bennett (STAR TREKs II-VI) revealed recently that several years ago he had pitched a Starfleet Academy-based STAR TREK movie concept.
I'm totally confused by this statement. Hasn't Bennett's Academy idea been known for years?
Wil Wheaton: Borg Queen.
A prequel film is not the way to save the franchise...with or without Harve Bennett or Ralph Winter.
Starfleet Academy is CRAP!!!
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Quack!!!
I'll bring the goat.
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"Unfortunately, in the US people regard freedom as complete and that includes being rude and inconsiderate. ... From people talking on a cell phone in a theather to road rage." -jobugeek
If I recall correctly, the Dark Horizons report mentioned a Paramount movie project called "Star Fleet Command" (sic), not Starfleet Academy.
Either way, Rick, give me a call, I've got some ideas for ya. :)
Should be interesting if true, a BIG Trilogy. Hmmmm...
If they're working on a prequel movie it might not be Starfleet Academy, it might be that ridiculous story we heard from Ain't It Cool News a few weeks ago. That's scary.
How awful, they need to sack these two now. Working on another sci-fi show will only further dilute Enterprise. We've always been told the long hours and hard work involved in producing Trek, and they have time to develop a new series?!
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Nemesis had all the right buttons there waiting to be pressed, but like Data on a Reman keypad Paramount seem to have pushed the wrong ones. :/
This is HUGE news but so not the direction I would like to see the mvoie franchise go. TNG XI suits me fine. :(
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Nemesis had all the right buttons there waiting to be pressed, but like Data on a Reman keypad Paramount seem to have pushed the wrong ones. :/
This could be a face saving measure for them to bring in new people to run Star Trek. Berman and Braga working on a nonTrek related series is great news.
That prequel movie sounds ridiculous.
Remember a while back when I was advocating Harve Bennett's original script for Trek VI?
Sure as hell sounds like Harve's script is what is being hinted at here. "Prequel"? "Starfleet Academy"? Two other producers (like maybe Bennett and Winter)?
Hmmm...
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WHAT?!???!!!!!!
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