I have found reading the post here very amusing for more reasons than I can get into.
Let me say however most of you have it wrong, Remember one thing Vulcan’s have a very Victorian attitude towards sex we only know of the 7 year mating bit from TOS it’s Movies, TNG, DS9 and VOY not to mention the Vulcan way of being. You all seem to forget in these your “Pure Trek” Shows there have always been reference to or shown examples of Vulcan’s who don’t fallow the “Logical Path” in fact as stated in early shows and Movies there are those who out right reject or don’t Fully comply with it don’t forget Vulcan’s don’t Lack emotion or don’t know what it is to feel they Repress Emotion and put logic to there feeling where emotion plays no part.
However, if you don’t agree with this Remember Vulcan’s have Married other Species and Mated with them and most if not all of them don’t wait 7 years to get down and dirty with there loved ones!
As for the way the show is presented I will admit there are Elements that are not true to form but hardly worthy of the “Destruction of Trek as we Know it” Title you are branding it with, You all are forgetting one major fact this show in it’s time line is the before before Picture of the Trek that is to Come Hell if things weren’t Different I’d be really Pissed at the Show, It’s all about growing each generation will always have things in common but will also be different than from the one before it right, Maybe not so much different than the one that came before but certainly the further you go back the greater most of those differences become.
And for those of you who have a Problem with the Trip/T'Pol Paring let me remind you of one thing “It’s a Captains World in Trek” aside from the finale hours of DS9 what captain in Trek has ever been or Close to one significant other The captains are always Single to get the Girl or Guy in one case. Or you could just stop watching Buy the DVD’s of the other shows and live with just that
Quote:""and a certain obsession that Archer suddenly takes on in terms of his desires to keep these eggs alive."
The reason better be to do some research on their species. Seeing how they are at war with them. If not then whatever idea he has will seems stupid. Unless he is just hungry and hasn't ate in days.
Quote:"questionable tactics since embarking on this new mission may come to a head.
There will be consequences for being a bad clone of Captain Kirk. I would what it will be?
Quote:""That is an episode that is going to result in a mutiny," Berman finishes in reference to "Hatchery."
Is this mutiny because Archer won't share the eggs for breakfast with the rest of the crew??? Oh yes, sounds like good "team work" on the ship. More "Fasinating B&B" dribble.
Quote:"With the addition of Manny Coto, it makes life much easier; Manny is a terrific writer," he says. "Chris Black is a terrific writer. We have two co-executive producers who can turn out good scripts and rewrite good scripts.
Translation............
"We always hear about these people called "good writers" but Brannon and I have never seen any. So it is great to see real writers with real talent do that crazy thing call "writing". Maybe someday we will both grow up and be writers too. Wouldn't that be great! You see new and exciting things each day!!
Quote:"For Brannon [Braga] and me it is really a question of having a team that we can work with, as opposed to have to write a bunch of them ourselves."
Translation
"It is great to see these guys come in and save our asses. It is great to finally see someone who can actually write something that people want to watch. Lord knows Brannon and I haven't and we certain don't have a clue what we are doing and man did it show in the beginning of these stinky series."
Quote:""I think the writing process is the most rewarding," he says. "When Brannon and I are writing it is a very focused process and it is the most rewarding part of my job."
Too bad nobody else finds them rewarding. Just annoying pieces of shit. With the success of non B&B episodes it is clear they shouldn't write for Star Trek again. Both are talentless.
Quote:"Jolene [Blalock] and I had to find the truth of that [blossoming relationship between 'Trip' and 'T'Pol'] and how that gets created," the actor reveals. "We have had a lot of conversations about it.
In other words this is the stupid spot of the story where typical "soap opera" crap meets poorly directed desperate "Sci Fi". It is safe to assume that these segments of the episode are where fans can go get a bite to eat or take a piss. That way we can enjoy the commericals!
Quote:"In fact, we shot 'the day after' scene first before we shot the rest of it. We had a lot of conversations about how we could stay true to our characters, and Jolene has the tough job in terms of how to rationalize that with the character traits that are Vulcan."
"The Day after etc" means the two have filmed the sex scene. Ok big deal! Welcome to "Baywatch For The Stars". Now would someone like to tell us how they are going to explain this CONTINUITY ERROR (that has been KNOWN FOR 35 YEARS) of "7 year mating cycle" being disregarded after Trip bangs the vulcan slut?
Consequences? Follow through? Mutiny? I must admit I'm intrigued. This speaks of a great storyline for the former boy scout in command. I'm encouraged...Bakula is 1000 percent better playing Archer with the dark, tortured edges. I'm wondering if he wants to use these "children" as leverage.
As for Trip and T'Pol, why not? Coto's writing it. I'm willing to give it a chance. I want to see what Connor and Jolene bring to those scenes. It's about time the writers stopped pussyfooting around with decon scenes and "swapping chromosome" talk that's supposedly so titillating. Adults have adult relationships.
From the above:
With the addition of Manny Coto, it makes life much easier; Manny is a terrific writer," he says. "Chris Black is a terrific writer. We have two co-executive producers who can turn out good scripts and rewrite good scripts. For Brannon [Braga] and me it is really a question of having a team that we can work with, as opposed to have to write a bunch of them ourselves."
AND specifically - "For Brannon [Braga] and me it is really a question of having a team that we can work with, as opposed to have to write a bunch of them ourselves."
All I can say is that Berman has the gift of the spin. It is remarkable.
But here is the sad part (from further down in the quotes above):
"We had a lot of conversations about how we could stay true to our characters, and Jolene has the tough job in terms of how to rationalize that with the character traits that are Vulcan."
When you have your own actors in interviews admitting that they have problems "rationalizing" what has been done to this supposed Vulcan character and the behavior traits assigned to her, it is a sad day. As far as I'm concerned, "GAME OVER". Reveal whatever it is that she is and move on.
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Outer Space. The last frontier.
These are the trips of the Star Trek Enterprise.
Its 5-year plan...
Calls for us to seek out new life and new civilizations.
To boldly fly where no man has gone in space.
Patrick Stewart on SNL 2/5/94
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